Dallas PUA

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Garden Ridge: Hang out on the Weekend. Just roam around...they have some pretty cool stuff. Girls will come and go during your hour here. The place is huge as well. Just walk down an isle that a girl is on and ask for some advice on pillows or art work. Easy opener.

Whole Foods: Always full of hot women. They shop here because they like to eat healthy which is a plus. It takes way more balls to open a girl here so if you find success please let us know how.

Happy Hour: It is a different ball game at the places you go in the evenings when you go during happy hour. Professional types frequent these joints.

Mercy in Addision: It is a wine lounge. I would hit this up before you head out to the venue for the evening. Maybe stroll in like 8:00-9:00. I have no experience here but I have a feeling it might be good.

Go ahead and give day game a try. I know where I am, quite a few of the guys abandoned the night club/bar scene just to do that. Cause guess what? No one is hitting on women really during the day except PUAs.

Sure, you won't get any make-out sessions .. except in really rare circumstances, but it's well worth it and the chicks are less likely to flake.

[QUOTE=UncleHOwie;35706]At times I grow tired of the bar/club scene. Sometimes I don't feel like doing what it takes to be successful in that environment and would like something a little more chill. What places do you recommend sarging that would have HB8's and above?

I'm familiar with some meetup.com singles groups but found the women that attended these events a little boring and not so hot.[/QUOTE]

Have you tried online dating? Plenty of 8's and above and you can do whatever you want on your date.

Ohh yes Garden Ridge.......lol........all I ever find in there are gay dudes. :eek:. I might have to try it again tho..........uhhh for the chics!

I have been active with online dating lately. I've noticed that all of the hottties on there get bombarded by tool bags and it becomes a chore to check their messages and they ultimately give up. Sometimes I feel like I am on there just to entertain these girls while boosting their egoes.

You guys got any tips on pictures for dating profiles?

[QUOTE=UncleHOwie;35706]I'm familiar with some meetup.com singles groups but found the women that attended these events a little boring and not so hot.[/QUOTE]

If I were to try to meet women through meetup, I wouldn't go to the singles groups. I would try nightlife, wine tasting, yoga, volleyball, basically anything young attractive women are interested in.

[QUOTE=UncleHOwie;35714]You guys got any tips on pictures for dating profiles?[/QUOTE]

I think if done right, online game can be your bestfriend, it's literally working for you 100% of the time. Lion's right, there are a ton of hotties on the net, and while it's true that they get hit up a lot by men, it's not true that they don't at least open and look at every profile that they see. I can't remember a girl that I ever messaged that didn't at least look at my profile.

There are five aspects to online game:

-Pictures
-Written profile
-Opener
-Close
-Maintenance

Pictures

Make sure to have a lot of pictures on your profile. The point is to show her how much fun you are through the pics...women are humans, humans are visual creatures, therefore it holds that your pics are probably the MOST important thing in the profile (understand that you still have to follow up with a great profile, but the pics get your foot in the door).

Here's what I have on my profile:

-Main pic that only has me and is a clear shot of what I look like. I don't look directly at the camera in my pic (I read a study that showed that guys that don't look directly at the camera in their pics are 30% more likely to get a response...the theory is that women like assholes/indifference in real life and that carries into the Internet...I've found that it does make a difference, albeit slight)
-Pic further in the distance that shows, clearly, what your body type looks like (again, look away from the camera)
-Fun pics of you alone and with your friends/buddies. I have a handful of pictures with me doing fun things with my friends, one of me and Smirks on a tiny carousel riding 2ft tall horses. I have another from a photo shoot I did of me hanging from a tree wearing a St Pattys Day hat and holding a kickball (it was for a kickball league calendar), and one of me riding a mechancial bull.
-Then, other random pics of me doing random things. Again, try to make sure they're pics where you're not looking directly at the camera.

I get comments on my pics all of the time. The goal is for you women to look at your profile pics and think, "wow, this guy has a fun life..."

Written Profile

First, check out other guys' profiles to see how they put them together and what they said. Then, do the opposite. Most guys create a profile where they basically provide women with a very specific, detailed life resume. They're xx age, they're name is xyz, they do [blank] for a living, they live in [blank] part of town. For fun, they enjoy doing this and that...etc, etc, etc. For the love God, do not do this. The profile is about sparking attraction, not creating comfort. When you spark attraction in real life, do you ever talk about serious shit? No, you don't.

Be general, generic, and congruent to your personality. In my profile, I come across as a fun, exciting, intelligent, creative guy. So, my pics fit that dynamic as do my words.

Instead of saying I'm an Asset Manager for apartment complexes, I say: "I'm a Bic Disposable Lighter Repairman...it's a growth industry"

Instead of saying that I enjoy working out, I say: "I like to work out, it’s important to me. If I don’t work out I’ll get old and fat and ugly faster. Not good." (stolen from David D.)

Instead of rattling off the places I like to go, I say: "I'm a proficient dive bar explorer and pride myself on having an uncanny ability to find those cool, unknown places that I never tell anyone about because I discovered it..."

My profile generally reads like a hodgepodge of funny anecdotes mixed in with some of my quirks. I say:

"I eat my veggies first"
"I know who will be Santa next Christmas"
"Currently, alcohol is my Muse, but I'm currently seeking applications for a replacement"

Instead of saying I'm looking for this, that, and everything else in a woman I say:

"If you're more roller derby than figure skating, more Betty Paige than Marilyn Monroe, sexy instead of hot, an individual instead of special, and found yourself nodding enthusiastically while laughing aloud while you read this then you owe it yourself to contact me."

The truth is that my profile has very little definitive, hard evidence of who I am. But, it's not what you say you are that makes you you. When you look at my profile you can tell a few different things:

-I'm different, there literally are no profiles like mine
-I'm creative
-I'm confident enough to take a risk and do something different
-I'm less concerned about impressing you with the facts of my life than I am with impressing you with the feel of my life
-I'm funny
-I'm intelligent (make sure your grammar and spelling are tip top and make sure your sentence construction sounds intelligent)
-I'm successful (income questions bear that out...even if most lie about it)
-I'm warm and approachable

Just as when you first approach a girl in real life, you want them to walk away with an idea of the fun and excitement that is your life. The details will work be uncovered over time.

Opener

This was the hardest thing for me to learn. But, it has to be short, different, and even boarder line ballsy. To learn exactly what not to do, I created a shill. I constructed a profile of a HB8 (got the pics off of Hot or Not Hot.com and the profile from a girl that lived somewhere out West). Then, I sat back and waited. Once you see what other guys say to girls, you'll understand what you should say.

I've heard guys say that you should tease her in your opener, I do not recommend doing this. There's no context to the neg so it's really, really dickish. But, what you do want is for your opener to push the envelope enough so that there are a few girls every now and again that respond with: "really?" or "are you being serious?"

It also has to have a hook or a question. Something they can grab on so that you can either continue with the opener or so they have something to start their email with and then change the subject.

I'd give you hard examples, but I worked uber hard to create just 2 or 3 that actually have a fairly high response rate (70 - 80%), so I'm going to keep them to myself.

Close

I usually only perform 2 or 3 email volleys before I ask them for their number. Sometimes, some women just skip past that and offer to get together for drinks. Obviously this works best for you. I always ask for the number so that I have some type of investment on her part. Once I get the number, I'll send a text...almost always I send: "Well, you showed me yours so I'll show you mine 214.xxx.xxxx" Then we have a few volleys, then I tell her that I'm going to call her later. Yes, I've found that calling the Internet girl increases the probability of getting a face to face meeting. It also allows you to build comfort with her. I'm not a phone guy, but it is highly effective with Internet girls. Plus anyways, you want her to be excited and feel comfortable with you on the first day2 because it increases your chances for an f-close astronomically (and, f-closes on the first day2 with a girl of the net is not out of the realm of reality, it happens all the time).

Maintenance

Change something very, very minor about your profile everyday. Omit a sentenece, add a sentence, whatever. When the profile is edited it usually ends up going back to the top of the search list...that's what you want, you want to be sitting at or near the top so she can find you easily.

I've run online game for a good 10 years and it's changed a ton over that time. My success rate was always mediocre, at best, until I overhauled everything with the above suggestions. Since then I average anywhere from 10 - 15 views a day, 2 - 3 contacts a day (depending on the day, weekdays are a lot higher, Sundays are pretty high as well), and if I'm really diligent, you can easily set up a couple day2s a week with attractive women (understand that since your profile is going to be awesome that you're going to get A LOT of ugs dropping you a line, but you'll also get some hotties, and the hotties that YOU contact will be much more likely to respond to you).

Most of my success came from Plentyoffish.com and just normal ass restaurants...closer you get to colleges, more likely stock of HB's.

My LTR actually came from PoF.

Wow, there is a shit pile of information in this thread, I nominated for best of..



I also just wanted to add that maybe you should create a "shill" profile for yourself with real pictures on a site that is not your intended "sarge" site.

So like if you want to start on PoF, then go to match, create a profile and experiment with your pictures and see exactly what you can get away with saying on your profile. B R had some awesome advice to start implementing.

I created one on PoF that I used as a shill and I have to say, I got a crappile of information from it. I portraited myself as the hapless dater, the ladies man, the middle of the road, the nerdy dater, the knowitall type, asshole type, etc... Pretty much any type you can think of. I changed up pictures and watched to see how many views I had and on each personality and picture I put on display I had different responses. Of course, you have to have a base line for measuring yourself. The base line I chose was run of the mill guy. Meaning, I created a profile with stuff that other guys literally said on their sites. With online dating miles very, and like B R said, it takes a lot of work for maintenence and setting it up.

Actually, I think I still have a PoF profile ..... lol it seems I even tried some NLP stuff for a "girlfriend/boyfriend" frame and I even tried the whole, pic for a pic thing. Wow.. I had a lot of shit going on.


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If you noticed Bull Run's post missing for a bit...that was my bad. I was copying it to the 'Best of' forum, and moved instead of copied.

Just because I'm an Admin, doesn't mean I know what I'm doing :P lol