drugs and sarging

[Guest]

whats your take. do they with discression, help or hinder? if one is not a regular user is a facade that could become a stubling point once ones influenced perception changed? if you are a regular "partier" does it limit the amount (more so style) of girls one can pull? or Do you just like picking up the coke (random drug insert here) hors?

[Guest]

One time I went to a club and dropped acid (very light trip, so it was easy to still be social). I had gone out that night with no intention of sarging, and the night before I had a very bad time out sarging, I noticed a stark difference between the two nights out. The drug made me feel euphoric, and put this smile on my face, which suddenly made it easier to talk to people, and made women more receptive to me. Unfortunately because I was tripping, girls were the last thing on my mind. I'd say the drugs only took me halfway where I needed to be, and kind of hindered the rest of my progress.

[Guest]

Drugs may help on an aspect, like being more social or talkative...but its just a crutch. You can't stay high forever and always use said drug ever time you sarge. It's kinda like alcohol, most "poooahhhs" can't sarge without alcohol, it's their crutch, hence why night game and bar game is so much more popular/easier than anything else.

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[quote1240537244=Just/Us]
It's kinda like alcohol, most "poooahhhs" can't sarge without alcohol, it's their crutch, hence why night game and bar game is so much more popular/easier than anything else.
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Reminds me of the first time I sarged with you Just/us lol.
We were at northpark and you and Skepsis were like "This would be a lot more fun if we were drunk" so ya'll left for a bar lol.

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Reminds me of the first time I sarged with you Just/us lol.
We were at northpark and you and Skepsis were like "This would be a lot more fun if we were drunk" so ya'll left for a bar lol.
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Haha, yes, everything [i]is [/i]funner when you are drunk. But this is a problem for me too, I tend to want to drink when I go out because it makes everything easier. I have been trying to cut down lately on my drinking, especially since it costs so much to always be drinking at the bar.

[Guest]

Just/Us I don't like that avatar. Go ahead and change that.

I can't imagine being on drugs would do any good. Unless of course you hang out in an environment that everyone is doing drugs. Then it is probably back to even ground so who fucking cares.

Now of course my drug of choice is booze. And without these I know for a fact my game is weak. Plus I look like a lump on a log without booze and overall I would rather be anywhere than a bar when I am sober.

[Guest]

not to mention girls are hotter when you're drunk! lol haha..

..no but seriously, as everyone else said, i dont think drugs is good for sarging as it will detriment your game. you lose focus and your ability to think, calibrate and react...

as far as booze go, i think its great (of course in moderation). i do alot better when im tipsy because i am able to let go of my limiting mind (and a huge inner game hurdle for me right now) which makes me much more social; that only equals success for me...

[Guest]

As a former heavy drug user (I never spiked but other than that), I have noticed a very anti-drug attitude in pick up but it's very 2 faced. I look at it this way and I look at it with all drugs including alcohol and tobacco, drugs for fun=OK drugs as a crutch= Bad.

We, as a society have a crazy attitude about drugs. Why is it OK to pop zoloft to bring your mood up so you can go out, but doing a few lines of coke is bad? Both are drugs, both enhance mood and counter the effects of depression, both are addictive but one is prescription medication and therefore ok while the other has been criminalized. I know of guys on this board that get stoned before they hit the clubs. I know LOTS of guys on this board that drink heavily while sarging. From a biological standpoint there isn't much of a difference. I think in both instances they are a crutch. "Doing coke is bad", why? "Doing meth and heroin is bad!" why? I mean, aside from the medical reasons, Meth is some nasty shit, but tobacco is more addictive than heroin and possibly more dangerous. We drink alcohol and that is some deadly addictive shit.

I say if you want a rail of nose candy before hitting the club or you find yourself in a stall in the girls bathroom being offered a bump, what's the problem. If you can handle the criminality of the act, you're a grown up. Drugs aren't bad. Our abuse of them is. If you can't sarge without alcohol, quit drinking you wino. If you feel the need to powder your nose every 20 minutes, lay off the Bolivian marching dust. If a little bit of the herb is what you need to get you in the mood, put down the doobie.

It's also my opinion that putting away the prescription mood enhancers is a good idea. If you are depressed they can help. I needed medication to get out of my pit and up to normal. Once I got out of the pit, they were a crutch. I needed to get a life, Be social, have friends. I needed to get healthy. I found a healthy pass time. I ride my bicycle. I do 15 to 25 miles 3 times a week. It has done more for my mood than a rail of coke ever did.

I go out and drink beer and smoke cigarettes but I don't need the beer and tobacco. I'm not the alcoholic coke head I used to be. Will I do a rail if offered? maybe, maybe not but it's not because the law stops me. I have no use for it and the piece of tail I'm in the bathroom stall with needs to respect that. Of course it's easier to quit coke all together, they don't have rails on the bars like they did back in the 80's and 90's.

[Guest]

Nothing wrong with having fun, but if you think you NEED your drug, whether it be RedBull, Tequilla or Coke, in order to approach women and talk to them, you need to get over it.

I've kinda gone through this over the last two years, and I sarge mostly 100% sober now. For a time, I was convinced I needed a few shots of patron in order to sarge.

Then I started reading stuff and talking to women, and they don't like it when the drunk guy hits on them. At least, that's what they say. I'm learning that what they say they want and what they react to can be totally opposite. We've all had success sarging women drunk, so what does that tell you?

All I know for sure is, I've fucked up several opportunities with alcohol, but now that I'm sarging sober, I'm still fucking up plenty of opportunities. The big difference is, I'm not hung over the next day.

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As a former heavy drug user (I never spiked but other than that), I have noticed a very anti-drug attitude in pick up but it's very 2 faced. I look at it this way and I look at it with all drugs including alcohol and tobacco, drugs for fun=OK drugs as a crutch= Bad.

We, as a society have a crazy attitude about drugs. Why is it OK to pop zoloft to bring your mood up so you can go out, but doing a few lines of coke is bad? Both are drugs, both enhance mood and counter the effects of depression, both are addictive but one is prescription medication and therefore ok while the other has been criminalized. I know of guys on this board that get stoned before they hit the clubs. I know LOTS of guys on this board that drink heavily while sarging. From a biological standpoint there isn't much of a difference. I think in both instances they are a crutch. "Doing coke is bad", why? "Doing meth and heroin is bad!" why? I mean, aside from the medical reasons, Meth is some nasty shit, but tobacco is more addictive than heroin and possibly more dangerous. We drink alcohol and that is some deadly addictive shit.

I say if you want a rail of nose candy before hitting the club or you find yourself in a stall in the girls bathroom being offered a bump, what's the problem. If you can handle the criminality of the act, you're a grown up. Drugs aren't bad. Our abuse of them is. If you can't sarge without alcohol, quit drinking you wino. If you feel the need to powder your nose every 20 minutes, lay off the Bolivian marching dust. If a little bit of the herb is what you need to get you in the mood, put down the doobie.

It's also my opinion that putting away the prescription mood enhancers is a good idea. If you are depressed they can help. I needed medication to get out of my pit and up to normal. Once I got out of the pit, they were a crutch. I needed to get a life, Be social, have friends. I needed to get healthy. I found a healthy pass time. I ride my bicycle. I do 15 to 25 miles 3 times a week. It has done more for my mood than a rail of coke ever did.

I go out and drink beer and smoke cigarettes but I don't need the beer and tobacco. I'm not the alcoholic coke head I used to be. Will I do a rail if offered? maybe, maybe not but it's not because the law stops me. I have no use for it and the piece of tail I'm in the bathroom stall with needs to respect that. Of course it's easier to quit coke all together, they don't have rails on the bars like they did back in the 80's and 90's.
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Good Post