Phone call escalation

[Guest]

Quick question here. After getting a number close do you guys call or text for a bit first to build comfort and then call? I also think it may depend on the age range, like younger girls like to text a lot, where as old girls in like the mid to later 20s and up like the phone call better. Am I right on that?

By what time do you guys recommend to call by? What I usually do is text for a bit and then make a phone call a few days or like a week after I have been texting for awhile. Would you say you should call within a week, two weeks, four days? What is the amount of time that you have to make a phone call by?

[Guest]

its hard to say. all girls are different.

..but i'll tell you this, if youre going to ask her to go on a legitimate date, pick up the phone and call her. i know some community guys will disagree with me on that, but i think thats the best way to set up a date with a girl..

[Guest]

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Quick question here. After getting a number close do you guys call or text for a bit first to build comfort and then call? I also think it may depend on the age range, like younger girls like to text a lot, where as old girls in like the mid to later 20s and up like the phone call better. Am I right on that?
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In the last year I have gamed countless girls aged 20-35. I would say you are wrong if you group women into a category based on age whether they prefer texting or talking. Maybe over 40 or something but anything younger I would say text at first. Most people are just busy and are trying to get shit done. I hate when people call me.

Also with texting you have time to think of a great response every single time. You might not be as witty over the phone. You might also blurt out something stupid that kills your chances.

After you have closed ohh 300 girls you realize something.

THERE IS NO RULE!!!!! Text whenever YOU want to. If I like the girl I number closed I text the next morning. Assuming she didn't stay the night of course.

I prefer to text but if you want to call by all means call. You can talk like no ones business so I would recommend this for you. Me I suck at talking so I text. If I was good I would definitely call.

I like to text the girl the second I number close.

PC: Hey Dork!

This way she has my number so the next day she doesn't say Who's This?

On occasion I forget to text right away or I am drunk. So yes I have heard that plenty of times.

I would actually recommend calling/texting earlier than later. You wait a week she might of forgotten you. That is a long damn time.

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Quick question here. After getting a number close do you guys call or text for a bit first to build comfort and then call? I also think it may depend on the age range, like younger girls like to text a lot, where as old girls in like the mid to later 20s and up like the phone call better. Am I right on that?
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I would actually recommend calling/texting earlier than later. You wait a week she might of forgotten you. That is a long damn time.
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Yes, of course, I always text right after the close and the following day. I am asking if its necessary to "escalate" to a phone call, and if it is required to go from text to phone call, within how much time should I make the phone call after closing? Can you make a "meet up" aka date, over text? I have heard people say never set up plans over text and don't know if thats true.


I don't know, maybe I am over complicating things like usual.


I seem to be all issued up about dates too. Like the community says don't take a girl on a date, just hang out with her. So I try and think of things that is just hanging out and isn't an obvious date. I feel like getting a "date" is afc. I don't know, its probably just me and some issues I need to figure out.

[Guest]

I always text them that night or the next morning. It depends on one factor:

-I'll text tomorrow if I KNOW that I won't fuck them that night

Anyway, I never, ever, ever, ever, never, ever, never, ever call. Girls prefer texting for the same reasons we do:

-They're busy
-They want to *think* about what to say
-They don't want to be bothered

Texting can work both ways, it can be short and sweet, OR it can be a long process. For example, I've had text volleys as long as 2 or 3 before a day2 or SNL. On the other hand, I've hand MONTHS of texting before a day2.

In my opinion, girls that want a guy to call is way too needy given the way we communicate in today's society. If they want a phone call, they also tend to want all kinds of other bullshit that isn't worth the time or effort.

Oh yeah, and they don't really like to suck on the cock...but maybe that's just because I'm hung like a horse ;)

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I seem to be all issued up about dates too. [b]Like the community says don't take a girl on a date[/b], just hang out with her. So I try and think of things that is just hanging out and isn't an obvious date. I feel like getting a "date" is afc. I don't know, its probably just me and some issues I need to figure out.

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you know, im having issues wrapping my head around this one too. i understand why the community has this view; you dont want to come off as AFC or whatever. You are the prize. but i have also met alot of women who wanted to be taken out on a traditional first date, its the whole princess complex that most women have due to movies/poetry/romance novels, etc. if i REALLY like a girl, i would like to show her that i like her by putting some effort and maybe taking her on a traditional first date (usually something fun like rock climbing, bowling, etc.). i know this can come off as try hard, and at that point, you might have given her the upper hand by letting her know that you like her.

so i still am confused as to whether i would like to just hang out and do something fun vs. the traditional first date. in the end, if I want to take her on a traditional date, I WILL take her on a traditional date because thats what i want to do. its just that i was raised to wine and dine...that women love romance and that, that is how you get women (how naive i was...). too bad that by doing so, you get taken advantage oo often and too easily. of course im trying to re-wire my thinking, but its not an easy process...

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I seem to be all issued up about dates too. [b]Like the community says don't take a girl on a date[/b], just hang out with her. So I try and think of things that is just hanging out and isn't an obvious date. I feel like getting a "date" is afc. I don't know, its probably just me and some issues I need to figure out.

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i know this can come off as try hard, and at that point, you might have given her the upper hand by letting her know that you like her.



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That's another confusing thing. If you want to hang out with a girl, you obviously like her right? If not you wouldn't give her the time of day. I know you want to show tentative interest and not be disinterested or show too much interest, but if you guys are hanging out there is obviously some attraction on both parts, right?

[Guest]

I see words like 'date' and 'hang out.' And, you know what? They are so ambiguous that you are the only person to define what each is.

For some men, hanging out will be casual drinks. For other men, hanging out will be dinner. The reverse for 'dates' is true.

Phrase it how you wish, but understand that you are the only one that defines what it is that you actually do.

If a girl is willing to do anything with you she likes you. Your job from here on out is to make her understand that she made the right decision about you AND to parlay that decision into sex (i.e. escalate).

[Guest]

Think of it like this...

You meet this girl at a bar. She seems cool and is decent looking. But do you really know her? Do you know if you will like her when you actually hang out with her?

The answer is nope you sure don't. So why not keep things a little more casual on the first date. If she turns out to be a cool girl that you want to get to know more then you can take her to do more of a GF type stuff.

Please don't take her to a Movie on the first date.

After you have hung out with this girl a few times you can pretty much do anything you want. Do what YOU want.

Don't do a Dinner your First Date.

I think this is played out and can be reserved for old people. It can just get so boring. You don't want to come off as a boring person do you?

Don't go overboard on the first date.

Yes you will come off as try hard. She will think you are trying to impress her. Sure that might work for some girls but go with the majority.

When I was new I used to struggle with this as well. What should I do on the first date. I didn't have any good ideas. I figured I needed some magical thing to make her like me. Nah just do something anything. She will like you for you not because you buy her a nice dinner or take her to the moon.

Don't over think things and you should be fine.

You're a badass afterall...

[Guest]

My take on the couple items in this thread

-Phone calls
IMO you should have built up enough comfort in the initial meet that you don't need further comfort building on the phone before a Day2. I'd rather gouge my eyeballs out than sit and talk on the phone to a girl. I've had approximately 2 30 second phone calls with my girl in my 2 month LTR. I set the frame early i don't do phone calls. They just are not needed. But back to the initial PU...i recommend just texting to set up the meet. Save all that conversation for when you are in person

-Day 2
Remember you are screening them. don't you want to see if they are interesting by themselves without all kinds of distractions? Just grab drinks somewhere and shoot the shit. If they expect traditional first date and are not excited to just go sit and talk with you, it's a great way to screen out the princesses early. Bear in mind a lot of girls love to just get treated to dinners several nights a week by AFCs so will more willingly accept a traditional date invite just to get treated to a night out.

Don't get me wrong ...i love to treat a girl, once we are sleeping together. I'll take them out for dinners because [b]I[/b] enjoy doing it, not cause i'm trying to get them to sleep w/ me. In fact, my personal policy, is NO dinner dates before we sleep together.