Cocky/Funny

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Alright, I hope you guys don't mind me posting questions everyday, It's just that I am in field and find more and more things that I need help on.

Onto the topic!

Alright, so I was out with Skepsis today doing day game. I asked him what some of the things I need to work on in set where. He told me that I am overdoing the cocky/funny. That I should only do it at first and after the set hooks or whatever, to back off the c&f. My question is...how do you know when to stop the c&f? I am worried about coming across as the nice guy (that has happened WAY WAY WAY too much in my life) so I bust girls balls a lot. Hmmm, I guess I am just confused on this, like how often do you use the c&f? It just seems like you would be breaking frame if you change it up. Or maybe I have too much cocky and not enough funny?

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I'm cocky funny alot of the time. You can ask any of the girls I know they will say I'm an asshole, but really the nicest guy they know.

I used to go overboard with the cocky as well, but then I realized that being cocky funny all the time made me look overly full of myself and unreal. I started peppering in a decent amount of moments where I am just genuine and real, and talk about what I actually believe. After I started doing that my results with women skyrocketed. I think it comes down to making them see me as a real person with a mind not just some witty meathead.

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Maybe it's just me, and maybe I'm just drunk, Which I am, but I think sometimes all of us in the comunnity put waaaaayy too much ephasis on everything in general and over-analyze everything. Just us micro-calibation and look at her signals as to how she's feeling in each given moment. There's Mystery Method, NLP, De' angelo's Cocky Funny, etc... There are soooo many styles and "canned" material that too many people get caught up in all of it. Just do what you do and listen and pay attention more than and as you speak. See how she is reacting to your every word, bdy movement, facial gesture, etc... Then you ill know when you have possibly gone overboard or if you are on the right path to her G'String....

Good Luck Old Friend...

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hey guys, I got another question and don't want to stat a new thread, and it has to do with cocky/funny


Will these openers work good, or are they too "assholish"? I used it a couple times last week in purgatory, but I never hooked, so I don't know if it was the opener or something else.


To a blonde girl " So, is it true that blondes are really dummber than brunettes?"

to a brunette "I heard that blonde have more fun (or are funner to be around) is that true?"

I also like going up to a girl thats not on the dance floor and ask if they are boring. Then I say it looks like they are not having fun and probably won't be any fun to talk to.
Let me know what you guys think of these openers. I think they are great, they kinda qualify her off the bat, but then again what do I know?

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hey guys, I got another question and don't want to stat a new thread, and it has to do with cocky/funny


Will these openers work good, or are they too "assholish"? I used it a couple times last week in purgatory, but I never hooked, so I don't know if it was the opener or something else.


To a blonde girl " So, is it true that blondes are really dummber than brunettes?"

to a brunette "I heard that blonde have more fun (or are funner to be around) is that true?"

I also like going up to a girl thats not on the dance floor and ask if they are boring. Then I say it looks like they are not having fun and probably won't be any fun to talk to.
Let me know what you guys think of these openers. I think they are great, they kinda qualify her off the bat, but then again what do I know?
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Hey Just/Us...Here's my keyboard jockey $.02. i'd stay away from #1 for sure. I wouldn't recommend 2 or 3 either unless you can deliver them with great tonality, BL and congruency as well,(and even then i really wouldn't either, IMHO)

But it sounds like you field tested them and they didn't work, which is a great that you got out there and were trying things!

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But it sounds like you field tested them and they didn't work, which is a great that you got out there and were trying things!

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Thanks for the advice. I never got blown out, so in that sense they did "work" as well as any other opener I have used. Like I said before in one of my posts, I haven't got a set to hook yet without the help of a wing. So it may just be me...I don't know :(

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[blockquote]So, is it true that blondes are really dummber than brunettes?[/blockquote]

in my opinion making negative assumptions about people just puts them on edge, this is not cocky funny its just an insult in my opinion. Could work in some situations I guess, but not normally

[blockquote]I heard that blonde have more fun (or are funner to be around) is that true?[/blockquote]

could work still not cocky funny and still somewhat a negative assumption, positive assumptions are much better if you are going to open like this in my experience. A positive assumption would be something like: Wow this is where the parties at isn't it?!! I'm hangin out with you guys, who's the funnest? Positive assumptions are actually my most common openers because they are easy to do and quite effective. Its important to move on to a more edgy topic before they just start ignoring you though.

[blockquote]I also like going up to a girl thats not on the dance floor and ask if they are boring. Then I say it looks like they are not having fun and probably won't be any fun to talk to.[/blockquote]

again pretty much an insult how would you feel if someone came up to you and said this? Think about that before you open girls with things.

A cocky funny opener is something like if she bumps into you: wow already getting frisky! We barely know each other and you already trying to come on to me. I'm not just a peace of meat you know

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All of you guys are correct!

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hmmm, ok, guess I need to work on that c&f a bit.

Alright, thanks for the input guys.

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Everyone is different but something I focused on was attraction... WAYYYYYYYYY too much.. I've only realized this in the last 2 months... so much that I would come off as a player... have girls all over me.. then feel slutty for me banging them..

Now as sooooooon as I see 3 IOI's then I switch into comfort and start qualifying her *Basic M3 model*..

This not only progresses things way faster.. but it allows me to qualify her in the correct order.. if I just came up to her and qualified her.. she's not going to be as genuine or sincere compared to if she was already attracted to me.. and I want to reach that hook point.. then increase push pull.. neg.. pull.. kino.. push... fuck fuck fuck :)