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need tactics to avoid LJBF zone
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need tactics to avoid LJBF zone
by Guest » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:53 pm
ok guys...i think im getting close to ljbfs zone with the one girl at my school...shes a HB9 so shes pretty damn pretty! lol anyways, shes in non of my classes..i met her on facebook actually when a 'mutual friend' invite me to a group she was in and we started talking online alot and still are...she always asked me to come to the math lab to say hi and what not, but that is somthing i wanna stop doing cause i can literally feel my value dropping when im in the math lab not doing math when she is...making me look quite choadish...she has an ex boyfriend that keeps bothering her and shit and i feel she is not over still not over him...i asked her for her number two times...both in a indirect and cocky/funny way but she said lets wait on that...so im not sure what she is feeling...i dont wanna seem pushy and needy like i always am...i mean i think she does feel me...all i need is some time to chill with her outside of school but i dunno if i should be patient or not...HELP ME OUT GUYS!!!!
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by Guest » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:21 pm
Gunner when all is said and done you're gonna be able to write a book about gaming girls at school. lol All kidding aside, sounds like you're making some good choices on what enviornment she sees you in. Keep that up. But I would say in this case use that online rapport you've established and send her a private msg saying to come meet you out for coffee. It's non threatening and you can throw in some 'I'll be studying some anyway' bs. The let's wait on that is not good because she controls that frame now but you should flip it on her. Dont ask again for it until it's her idea. Make her come by and see you at the library or something lame to establish a small compliance test. It's not and outlandish request since she's already used it on you and if she complies then you have helped your status some. All sounds easier said than done man, and I remember trying to game on campus before knowing about the game.
Cool thing is if she cares anything about the school you both attend you've got some easy natural conversation topics. Good luck. keep us posted.
Cool thing is if she cares anything about the school you both attend you've got some easy natural conversation topics. Good luck. keep us posted.
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by Guest » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:23 pm
Hey thanx for the advice man...now what are some things i should avoid the LJBFs zone? I always thought that if u comfort a girl after a break up then that would higher your value...but i feel that it highers your value as a 'guy friend' and not in any attraction ways...
how would a pua approach her next time i see her? im thinking pump up the kino...maybe run some game that involves touching the hands...i actually know alot of cool magic tricks that invloves the hands...does magics tricks come off as try-hard? thanks for the advice guys!
how would a pua approach her next time i see her? im thinking pump up the kino...maybe run some game that involves touching the hands...i actually know alot of cool magic tricks that invloves the hands...does magics tricks come off as try-hard? thanks for the advice guys!
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by Guest » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:11 pm
The standard way to avoid LJBF is to add some sexual tension, or let her know that you think of her in a sexual way, perhaps by telling her that you are attracted to her.
The platonic friend requires "safety" in the sense that she doesn't have to worry about attraction. Like a brother. Don't let her have it. If you let her develop that safe feeling, and then try to break out of it, she'll see it as a big change, "I don't think of you in that way" and she'll try to force you into staying in the same platonic role. "I want to keep you as a friend."
It's perfectly normal for you to be attracted to her. She can't hold it against you. But it will disqualify you from being the "safe" platonic friend.
Now, from what you've said about your situation, I think you have some risk of LJBF-land, but I would say your bigger problem is it sounds like you don't have a lot of attraction. Silvermouth's suggestions are good, the only thing I would add is that coffee can sound like a 'date' so I would emphasize that you happen to study/hang out at a place that happens to be a coffee shop (or library), rather than have her join you [i]for[/i] coffee. Imagine if she were doing math at a coffee shop and invited you to come by and say hi, vs. if she invited you for coffee. Very different.
Talk about (or show her) things you like. If you like magic tricks and are truly interested in them, then show her. If you're into it, she will be able to tell. But if it's a contrived excuse to touch her hands or look cool, she will probably be able to tell.
The platonic friend requires "safety" in the sense that she doesn't have to worry about attraction. Like a brother. Don't let her have it. If you let her develop that safe feeling, and then try to break out of it, she'll see it as a big change, "I don't think of you in that way" and she'll try to force you into staying in the same platonic role. "I want to keep you as a friend."
It's perfectly normal for you to be attracted to her. She can't hold it against you. But it will disqualify you from being the "safe" platonic friend.
Now, from what you've said about your situation, I think you have some risk of LJBF-land, but I would say your bigger problem is it sounds like you don't have a lot of attraction. Silvermouth's suggestions are good, the only thing I would add is that coffee can sound like a 'date' so I would emphasize that you happen to study/hang out at a place that happens to be a coffee shop (or library), rather than have her join you [i]for[/i] coffee. Imagine if she were doing math at a coffee shop and invited you to come by and say hi, vs. if she invited you for coffee. Very different.
Talk about (or show her) things you like. If you like magic tricks and are truly interested in them, then show her. If you're into it, she will be able to tell. But if it's a contrived excuse to touch her hands or look cool, she will probably be able to tell.
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by Guest » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:32 pm
Ask her for math help. Take some hard ass class like Differential Equations or Physics and then ask her for help.
Why are you trying to avoid being friends? You could be the Adam London of your college campus. Social Proof works on college campuses as well. :)
Being friends with a hot chick makes you hot in the eyes of other girls. Why the heck would you want to give up such an opportunity? Plus you could whine to her about your new girlfriends who seem to just use you for sex....they make you feel like a sausage with legs!!!
Why are you trying to avoid being friends? You could be the Adam London of your college campus. Social Proof works on college campuses as well. :)
Being friends with a hot chick makes you hot in the eyes of other girls. Why the heck would you want to give up such an opportunity? Plus you could whine to her about your new girlfriends who seem to just use you for sex....they make you feel like a sausage with legs!!!
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by Guest » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:38 pm
I agree with Rembrandt here. Tread carefully on being shoulder to cry on. If she wants to talk about him try the approach of being understanding but not comforting. Like hey i've been there and I feel ya, not I'm sorry and you'll get thru this...blah blah. you feel me?
As for kino, well that's up to the situation really. Use it if it fits. Simple as that. Staying out of the ljbf zone is often about taking control. Make her make an effort for you in some small way. The conversations topics you have with her should be at least a 50/50 of your topics vs hers. You dont want to get caught being the guy she tells all her issues to.
As for kino, well that's up to the situation really. Use it if it fits. Simple as that. Staying out of the ljbf zone is often about taking control. Make her make an effort for you in some small way. The conversations topics you have with her should be at least a 50/50 of your topics vs hers. You dont want to get caught being the guy she tells all her issues to.
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by Guest » Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:11 pm
repeat after me:
"i want you"
if she says "want me to what?"
say "i want to take you" (regardless of what she says)
"take me where?"
"(add "i want to take you" here if she doesnt respond immediately)from behind, i want to wrap my arms around you and gently kiss your neck and shoulders and send that shiver you like so much all over your body, then i want to whisper in your ear, not really though i just want to do that really seductive blow i see on tv so much"
if youre borderline LJBF zone you already have enough comfort, stop toying around and state your intetions. blow me, or blow me out.
"i want you"
if she says "want me to what?"
say "i want to take you" (regardless of what she says)
"take me where?"
"(add "i want to take you" here if she doesnt respond immediately)from behind, i want to wrap my arms around you and gently kiss your neck and shoulders and send that shiver you like so much all over your body, then i want to whisper in your ear, not really though i just want to do that really seductive blow i see on tv so much"
if youre borderline LJBF zone you already have enough comfort, stop toying around and state your intetions. blow me, or blow me out.
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