Reciprocation/Initiation bitch

[Guest]

I am very much a person that sees relationships as a two way street. As I learn more about women I have noticed that in the early stages of a relationship they sure like YOU to lead the way. I have no problem with that. Perhaps its a test to gage interest/commitment. So as you continue down this path giving these little sluts the attention that they crave, you reach a point where its time for them to reciprocate some of that attention!

So sometimes they'll show me some indicators of interest with out me withdrawing , other times I'll have to withdraw some attention.

I guess my bitch here is that I get tired of initiating everything. I even had this problem in my marriage. So maybe its me????

One of the girls I have now I have reached the point where its time to shit or get off the pot. The song and dance has been going on long enough. Its time to move forward with or without you. Women complain that they get used for sex, well sometimes I feel like I get used solely for entertainment purposes such as when I take them out for great nights on the town and send them funny text messages/emails.

My cougar that I see has never told me no when I've asked her out. Which is cool, but for just once it would mean a lot to me if she would call me up and say "hey, lets go out tonight".

It was this way with my exwife when it came to sex. I could always get her interested, and she rarely said no, but I was always the one that had to initiate it.

I don't think its lack of interests on their part, I see it as more of a lack of confidence in them and how women are raised perhaps.

I get freak'n tired of initiating everything the majority of the time. Is this just something I'm going to have to get used to or what?

The more shit I run into the more I want to be a dick to these girls. I'm naturally a nice guy with a bad boy side to me, so I don't enjoy being a dick but it sure does get their attention.

Another thought that runs through my head is a lot of these single moms just don't need a man in their life. Its like they sort of want one but not really. Their kids fill their emotional needs, what do they need a guy for........oh yeah a little entertainment and someone to pay for shit every now and then. Where are the 30 somethings without any kids??? I can't find any. Those hot little 20 somethings are flakey as it gets.

You guys run into this same crap, or am I just not doing something right?????

[Guest]

Since I feel like bitchin' this morning my other complaint is why can't these silly hookers just come right out and say wtf they are thinking???? Instead of me wondering and having to take the time to figure it out on my own. I respect a person that will tell me to my face to go fuck off.

Ok, I'm done whining.........thank you. lol. ;-)

[Guest]

[quote]Since I feel like bitchin' this morning my other complaint is why can't these silly hookers just come right out and say wtf they are thinking???? Instead of me wondering and having to take the time to figure it out on my own. I respect a person that will tell me to my face to go fuck off. [/quote]

Some women are better about this than others, but in my experience this is just about all of them :)

As for initiating, it depends on the woman too and her goals... i've had woman who are more sexually aggressive be the initiators but it's more than exception than the rule... and as for initiating going out, i find they generally will, but only if they're wanting to lock you into a BF/LTR situation... then they may take it farther than you're interested in :)

Finally, I think a lot of your stuff can be answered by the following quote from "As Good As It Gets":

"How do you write women so well?"
"I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."

[Guest]

I know exactly what you mean when you say that alot of...maybe most...women don't have the confidence to initiate.
Having that confidence is one of the main qualities I look for.

I don't mind doing the initiating in the beginning...hell I always have had to...but things ain't gunna last too long between me and her if she doesn't start putting in her share of the work at some point.

As far as I'm concerned, that's when its time to move on.
No reason to settle for something like that.

[Guest]

i think that most girls would like the guy to initiate because it makes them feel wanted, desired. it also is a part of the male/female interaction, they were raised to believe that men should approach and initiate

but i feel that as the relationship moves along, that it should trend closer to 50/50, generally if she really likes you then she would initiate because she WANTS to spend time with you. if not, you just need to be honest with yourself and realize that she just doesnt want to see you. but as you show lack of interest and attention, she is drawn to you. i dont believe that she is drawn to you because she likes you, but rather because she feels a sense of lost, and wants to regain that attention that all women crave

[Guest]

What about the old school mentality? Girls are not suppose to call guys and crap like that. Men are suppose to lead all the time. Personally I think some women just like us paying for crap all the time so they can have fun.