Dallas PUA

So I have been thinking about this for a while. Clearly this is in regards to SNL’s. I am about 99% sure that all SNL’s are Fool’s Mate.

Fool's mate, also known as the "two-move checkmate," is the quickest possible checkmate in the game of chess.

Fool's mate, in regards to PU is when you meet a girl at a venue and sleep with her THAT night. Do not get this confused with going out on a date with a girl and sleeping with her that day. That is not a SNL.

I have been thinking about my handful of SNL’s. What happened during the time I spent with them. How it proceeded to becoming a SNL instead of just a solid number close. What allowed me to progress to the point of them coming over that night.

What I have come up with is clearly the set went extremely well. Each set consisted of at least 30 minutes to an hour+ of attraction and comfort. But more importantly:

1. Attraction was super high on both parties.
2. There was very little work needed on my end. As long as I was super confident, kept attraction very high, and ran cocky funny it seems like it was a cinch.
3. As long as I didn’t do something stupid the deal was done.
4. Figured out logistics. Yes this is your JOB 90%+ of the time. Yes you will occasionally run into a girl who handles it for you.
5. Kept suspense high by NOT making out in the Venue. I have never kissed one of my SNL’s until outside the venue, in my car, or at my house.

Great so I have some guidelines in place if I am going for a SNL. But why am I saying they are all Fool’s Mate? Well that is simple. I say it because I don’t believe I did anything magical to achieve these. I believe I was the right guy at the right place at the right time. Insert the right guy with any other decent guy in the venue. Yes you heard that right. I was interchangeable.

Consciously or subconsciously that girl set out to get laid that night. There are so many reasons why this is the case. She is a little whore and sleeps around with different guy every weekend. She just broke up with her boyfriend and wants to get over him by sleeping with another guy. She wants a revenge fuck on her cheating boyfriend. She hasn’t gotten laid in a while and is super horny. And so on and so forth.

I used to think I was some badass PUA when I pulled a SNL. It isn’t until recently that I realized this wasn’t the case at all. I had a few tools that maybe helped me but that is it. The nice thing is I had a couple SNL’s before the game so I can compare those to the ones now. They are both identical.

So are they all really Fool’s Mate? I mean come on can’t you be so good at game that you take some girl who had no intention of sleeping with a guy she just met and take her home? That is an excellent question. I like to believe that you can get that good at game. Maybe you can…maybe you can’t.

Until I see otherwise they are all Fool’s Mate!

Great post! thx PC.
If I am shooting for SNL, I could follow these guide lines!

I agree with you on #5... after kiss close AT the venue, the girls I kiss closed seem like they have gotten what they wanted ALREADY!! That got me frustrated. I think your statements make sense. If you want to SNL, build up intensity and keep suspense high by not kiss closing at the venues.

Hm, I think sorta yes, sorta no.

I think there's a certain fraction of women who are perhaps "in the mood" or are getting revenge on an ex-bf or whatever, there's maybe a 50% chance or greater she'll find something satisfactory to take home. So if you're in the right place at the right time, it's you. Fools mate.

But at the same time I think there is a much larger fraction (I'd say even a majority) of women who go out, and they're open to the possibility of going home with someone, but only if everything is just right. And maybe there's a 1% chance someone will make her feel like she wants to feel, and she'll go home with him. This I would say is not fools mate, but it does happen and it is possible. I think the pros who are good at SNL know how to be that 1%, and can therefore pull SNLs a lot because they don't have to stumble upon the one girl who is eager.

I would agree that logistics are absolutely essential. Logistics is one area where it's easy to prepare, so there is really no excuse for sloppiness. Some things are not under your control, and you have to deal with it as it comes, but for those things that you can control, get it taken care of.

As for making out, I want to say that it's ok to make out in the venue, but I'm having a hard time remembering. In any case I'd say you do have to take it easy and stop kissing and continue talking with her before you try to go for the pull.

Great post PC.

I think you're dead on with respect to SNLs. Virtually every SNL I've ever had sort of fit the model of a girl that is looking for sex that night. I just happened to be the guy that either 1) was the first with a solid, confident approach 2) projecting the most powerful sexual vibe 3) the 'best' of the guys that actually 'want' to take her home. There are a few others, but you get the idea. I totally think you are interchangeable to some degree...and I remember feeling like a fucking bad ass when I pulled an SNL.

Now, I feel a little differently. Now, I feel like a bad ass PUA when I pull a chick that I KNOW I'm going to want to hang out with in the future. The cooler the chick I pull, the better PUA I think I am.

Kissing at the venue can go either way. I'd say you're a more conservative person when it comes to publicly showing the world your sexuality. Not saying your a prude, just saying that you're not one to talk about sex and probably not one to show the world. So, I can see why not kiss closing would be part of your SNL formula.

I on the other hand tend to pull girls that are down with PDAs, in which case kiss closing at the venue is pretty much mandatory if I'm going to be able to escalate to an SNL.

Sleek, keep in mind if you're making out with a girl in a bar it doesn't mean she wants to have sex with you. She may simply just want to make out with someone, in which case she's going to make out with the closest attractive guy she can find. I remember once I was at BF, wearing jeans, a t-shirt, a tie, and a vest. I was waiting at the bar to get a drink and the girl standing next to me said something like: "look at you!!! you're so cute!!!" BAM!!! She started making out with me, after a few minutes of tonsil hockey, she turned her back and I was an after-thought. Didn't number close her or anything. Maybe I was a bad kisser (which I know isn't true, I mean have you seen my lips...I know the next time I see you guys you're going to look, just be tactful about it so I don't feel so slutty ;), more likely she just wanted to make out. Girls are that way man.

10% correct, 90% incorrect.

Ok, remember, the world is divided into two groups of males...the alpha males and the beta males. When I was married, I was a TOTAL beta male the entire fucking time. I pulled last night from Hooters, but I can tell you with 100% certainty, the old me of just 2 years ago would have NEVER been able to accomplish that. Yes, that girl was looking to get something, that's why she just "happened" to be standing next to my spot at the bar when I returned from the restroom in the 3rd quarter. The old me would have COMPLETELY fucked the entire opportunity. I would have figured I have no chance (not seen that as a major IOI). The old me would have opened with something that would have completely gotten me blown out. The old me would never have thought to isolate in the corner of the bar. The old me would have never been LEADING enough to make any of this shit happen. The old me would have been slamming down alcohol just to find the stones to carry conversation with her.

On her side of the equation, yes, she was looking for something to happen too. That's why she stood next to me. Had I not been there, it probably would have been some other good looking guy. So, yes, you are right to a degree. But you need to realize that 90% of men are incapable of making happen what they want to happen. Maybe even 95%.

Yes, at the end of the day, the women in this world have the role of chooser and we of chaser. But if you have some game, and experience, they WILL choose to be with you. Yes, they will choose to be with another guy who has enough alpha qualities too. There is no such thing as unconditional love with women. It doesn't exist so realize it, accept and deal with it. They fuck the guys with alpha characteristics and the remaining 95% of guys simply don't get any.