ASD = Anti-Slut Defense
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:33 pmHey guys, I found this post on mASF.
I'm working on changing up my style a bit because I get cockblocked alot even when I have IOI's and Escalation.
The solution: Incorporate more Group Theory and ASD strategies and logistics.
So here's a good post. Let's have some discussion on ASD and what we can do to get around it. Maybe we'll all benefit and get laid more.
-T
Date Posted: 2003/11/11 09:56:00 PM EST
Author: Pimpjuice
Subject: No ASD=Triple SEx
As we all go on this journey to PU mastery there are tons of things that come
up along the way. There are roadblocks that we must plow through. There is
actually a whole bunch of shit that we have to get around.
We have to detox ourselves from our AFC attitudes, actions, and beliefs. But
this is not enough. To get what we really want we have to remove things from
the woman too. Things like fear,worry, lack of trust and other shit like that.
Basically we need to develop a system for eliminating the Slut factor. Most of
us have came to the conclusion that once a woman is attracted any objections or
defense to advancement of the sarge are usually do to ASD.We must find ways to
eliminate it a every stage in the pickup.
I personally think every single one of us would get more lays if we mastered
the art of Crushing ASD.
After analyzing some of my sarges and reading posts about things like LMR, ASD,
flaking,shift of responsibility, and Comfort and trust. I've came to conclusion
that alot of these things are what are keeping guys from getting lays.
Framing and leading is an excellent way to deal with this problem. We must
strive to set a frame where she doesn't feel like a slut while simultaneously
leading the way and not allowing her to be put in situations where she has to
feel responsible for the sex. Or feel like a whorebag for it haven taken place.
Lately i've been experimenting with things in the field to rid the slut
defense. Here are a few.
1 Indirect Openers= When you come at her indirectly with false time
constraints and all the other shit to disarm it already sets the frame of " It
just happened"
2 Direct Opener= When you come at her like a man that isn't gonna apologize for
his desires you take responsibility off her shoulders. Congruence is a very big
issue here you must really be together when going this route and in control.
Seem like someone who can handle women. You know how on all those dating shows
women are like, " I dont think he could handle me." Dont be that Guy.
3 Aggressively communicating that I'm the selector and that any woman that I
select cannot be a Slut. Therefore she feels safe to succumb to my advances
because I wouldn't be advancing if she was a slut.( This can be done by doing
blatant screening giving IOI after your hoops have been met and describing the
type of woman you adore. I also tell stories that frame my reality of hooking
up as nonsluttish.)
4 Appearing to be Accepting Her and pushing her towards passion while disarming
her with words. There comes a time in a sarge when things are advancing and you
have to communicate to her primitive brain to reassure that she isn't a slut.
5.Taking responsibility.( Rio) The sex has to be your fault.
Whether it's because you were so seductive, she was infatuated, she was
emotional or a number of other things that can be excuses. Create context and
situations that give her a reason to blame it on you. MAN UP! This is shit like
approaching, making moves, sticking your dick in her, telling her the rules of
the game.
6Avoid doing things that trigger ASD. and Seduce in the right venue. dont put
her out there. Let every thing be "our little secret". Reframe nancy friday
tendecy.
Of course there is other shit that help like Social proof for instance but, I'm
getting tired and want others to discuss.
This is some shit I'm posting to keep my mind right. Some of my notes I think
this is A huge issue.
Insight please. I would love it if you guys addressed this issue and some of
your views. I'll revisit this thread later.
It is our job as men to eliminate ASD.
I'm working on changing up my style a bit because I get cockblocked alot even when I have IOI's and Escalation.
The solution: Incorporate more Group Theory and ASD strategies and logistics.
So here's a good post. Let's have some discussion on ASD and what we can do to get around it. Maybe we'll all benefit and get laid more.
-T
Date Posted: 2003/11/11 09:56:00 PM EST
Author: Pimpjuice
Subject: No ASD=Triple SEx
As we all go on this journey to PU mastery there are tons of things that come
up along the way. There are roadblocks that we must plow through. There is
actually a whole bunch of shit that we have to get around.
We have to detox ourselves from our AFC attitudes, actions, and beliefs. But
this is not enough. To get what we really want we have to remove things from
the woman too. Things like fear,worry, lack of trust and other shit like that.
Basically we need to develop a system for eliminating the Slut factor. Most of
us have came to the conclusion that once a woman is attracted any objections or
defense to advancement of the sarge are usually do to ASD.We must find ways to
eliminate it a every stage in the pickup.
I personally think every single one of us would get more lays if we mastered
the art of Crushing ASD.
After analyzing some of my sarges and reading posts about things like LMR, ASD,
flaking,shift of responsibility, and Comfort and trust. I've came to conclusion
that alot of these things are what are keeping guys from getting lays.
Framing and leading is an excellent way to deal with this problem. We must
strive to set a frame where she doesn't feel like a slut while simultaneously
leading the way and not allowing her to be put in situations where she has to
feel responsible for the sex. Or feel like a whorebag for it haven taken place.
Lately i've been experimenting with things in the field to rid the slut
defense. Here are a few.
1 Indirect Openers= When you come at her indirectly with false time
constraints and all the other shit to disarm it already sets the frame of " It
just happened"
2 Direct Opener= When you come at her like a man that isn't gonna apologize for
his desires you take responsibility off her shoulders. Congruence is a very big
issue here you must really be together when going this route and in control.
Seem like someone who can handle women. You know how on all those dating shows
women are like, " I dont think he could handle me." Dont be that Guy.
3 Aggressively communicating that I'm the selector and that any woman that I
select cannot be a Slut. Therefore she feels safe to succumb to my advances
because I wouldn't be advancing if she was a slut.( This can be done by doing
blatant screening giving IOI after your hoops have been met and describing the
type of woman you adore. I also tell stories that frame my reality of hooking
up as nonsluttish.)
4 Appearing to be Accepting Her and pushing her towards passion while disarming
her with words. There comes a time in a sarge when things are advancing and you
have to communicate to her primitive brain to reassure that she isn't a slut.
5.Taking responsibility.( Rio) The sex has to be your fault.
Whether it's because you were so seductive, she was infatuated, she was
emotional or a number of other things that can be excuses. Create context and
situations that give her a reason to blame it on you. MAN UP! This is shit like
approaching, making moves, sticking your dick in her, telling her the rules of
the game.
6Avoid doing things that trigger ASD. and Seduce in the right venue. dont put
her out there. Let every thing be "our little secret". Reframe nancy friday
tendecy.
Of course there is other shit that help like Social proof for instance but, I'm
getting tired and want others to discuss.
This is some shit I'm posting to keep my mind right. Some of my notes I think
this is A huge issue.
Insight please. I would love it if you guys addressed this issue and some of
your views. I'll revisit this thread later.
It is our job as men to eliminate ASD.