The Law and Divorce

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Postby Guest » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:18 am

I haven't had to time to read every thing, but I will and will be sure to comment. But how many of you have been thru a divorce?
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Postby Guest » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:39 pm

[QUOTE=UncleHOwie;39651]I haven't had to time to read every thing, but I will and will be sure to comment. But how many of you have been thru a divorce?[/QUOTE]

I've been through the paternity side of a divorce. Never been married.
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Postby Guest » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:04 pm

This thread has gotten jacked..... I'll add my several cents to the already annoyingly long off-track post.

[B]Herein is the truth about divorce from a man who has been divorced....[/B]

.....marriage has no value beyond the spiritual for men, and the spiritual value is so insignificant as to be not worth mentioning. This has been elaborated on ad nasuem. Everyone here knows it, and there should be a public service message advertising the fact to the world

.....women have the bigger stick when it comes to divorce. Women have the ultimate weapon at there disposal.. Abuse.. As in my spouse abused me and/or the children. When they can make an outrageous claim like that and it is automatically believed, there is no hope for a man to win.

.....The court system, OAG, and CPS are designed expressly to exclude the non-custodial parent from the child's life (which is in 99.9% of the cases, the man). Further, they are designed to milk the non-custodial parent of financial resources creating a slave class.

..... The family court system has the ability to imprison the non-custodial parent for not being able to pay child support. This is debtors prison. Do you remember learning in school how there is no such thing in the USA? Lies!

..... There is no incentive for a man to live with a woman beyond a few months. Any longer and she can claim common-law marriage. The law varies state to state, but all 50 have an article about common law marriage. [B] DO NOT EVER GET MARRIED! STAY AWAY! DANGER WILL ROBINSON! DANGER![/B]

Summary: If I could go back in time, I would have shot myself in the head rather than be married. It is in my 34 years on this planet the greatest mistake I have ever made.

Nothing ever got changed by sitting around bitching about it. If you are to make a change, go to : [url]http://petitionchildsupportreform.com/[/url] and sign the petition!
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Postby Guest » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:05 pm

Just some random thoughts from my fermented brain............;)

1. An intelligent man would never enter into a business agreement if he had a 66pct chance of coming out on the losing end. So why the fuck would a man enter a marriage that has a 66pct failure rate? Moral of the story.....don't be a dumb ass.....require that pre-nup. If she likes you enough she will comply. If not then she wasn't the right one! Pretty simple.

My cousin's girl wanted to get married so he told her she had to sign a pre-nup or it wasn't going to happen. Her parents couldn't believe that he would demand such nonsense of their little princess. Well she didn't sign.........and guess what.....she didn't leave him either! ;-)

If you don't make her sign a prenup, then you are a chump. Who's the fucking prize....you or her! Thats right my little bitches. :D You can never trust a woman like you can trust a MAN. This world became so great because it was built by MEN.....its got to be so fucked up because we've let women have too much say. Its time to reign these sluts in before we all go overseas to find our women.

2. I don't wish divorce on anybody. Its the hardest thing I have ever had to face in my entire life. You get broke down and mentally f'd up like a woman. I didn't eat or sleep for 3days. Lost 10lbs in a week. I spent 3hrs/day on the phone with my dad for several months,He was my personal psychologist. Fixing the problems are way easier than dealing with a divorce.

Todays woman is not marriage material and barely even ltr material.

I see way too many married men who are miserable and wish they would not have settled.........don't be one of them. This pua life might be full of ups and down and lack stability, but its sure better than putting up with some womans shit because you are married to her. I've been on both sides of it. When you're single you just tell her where the door is and go get another one. When you're married you tell her where the door is and she walks away with a check in her hand.

3. BullRun-[I] "What about the population of women that cheat on their husband, dump them for another man" [/I]

I know first hand exactly how that works. The law rewards them for their pathetic behavior. Only in AMERICA do women get rewarded for behaving poorly.

4. Mr. Lion that piece you wrote on American women is legendary. You nailed it. It takes experience and good common sense to compose what you posted. I am saving that bit in my archives. I might even email it to a few fucked up bitches in my past just for shits and grins. ;)

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzWHE32IxUc[/URL]
American woman, stay away from me
American woman, mama let me be
Don't come hanging around my door
I don't want to see your face no more
I got more important things to do
Than spend my time growin' old with you
Now woman, stay away
American woman, listen what I say
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Postby Guest » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:18 pm

Prenups aren't even adequate protection since the judge throws them out on whatever whim, or when it favors the man. In fact, there are so many prenups that are getting thrown out that a lotof the lawyers quit doing them because they're getting sued left and right. as in, the Men are suing the Lawyer because he spent big bucks for this bulletproof prenup only for it to be shredded by the court. The only way to avoid taking it up the ass from family law is to NEVER GET MARRIED!

Which, ironically is exactly what the lesbian femnazis want and have worked for for the past 40+ years.
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Postby Guest » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:06 pm

On a some what related note, I was in a grocery store the other day an seen a divorce magazine (true story). I guess it is the opposite of a bridal magazine. LOL.

One of the headlines on the cover says "Your New Financial Identity."



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Postby Guest » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:25 pm

Just judging by that cover, I'm sure it's more feminist bullshit...
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Postby Guest » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:51 am

One of the best posts I've ever read on this site.

I've had some of these same thoughts at different times but I don't think I've pulled all the ideas together like this before in my mind, very interesting perspective.

Mainly, the incentive isn't there anymore for women to stay in a marriage.


[QUOTE=Lion;39585]I have said it before and I will say it again: There is no reason to ever marry an American woman. When she divorces you after getting bored she will take more than half of your money and goods. She will keep the children. She will receive child support from you until each kid is 18. Your children will be raised by a step-dad or series of step-dads.

An American Woman has no consequences for her actions. When she gets bored of you, when she is too "independent" to be "kept down" in a marriage she knows she can leave and that she can depend (oh, the irony) on your child support. She can do anything she wants and the state is always on her side.

Child support is little more than a neutering of the dad. Child support should be abolished except in certain circumstances (The husband cheats and leaves for example). A woman has no reason to stay married anymore, she doesn't have to depend on keeping her husband to survive. If she doesn't receive child support from a "deadbeat dad" she knows she can depend on the state for support. You only have to look at the black community to see where the white community is headed. Black women are "independent" and "don't need a man" because they can depend on the state for support. The black community is in chaos and there isn't really such a thing as a black family. A mom and kids are a family or a mom and a series of boyfriends. Eliminate state support and child support for unmarried woman and you will see women staying in marriages.

The government and media propoganda have successfully replaced fathers, and Men in general, with the state. American women do not depend on Men. They depend on the state. She knows that when she dials 911 the cops are on her side no matter what happened. She knows that during the divorce she will be well taken care of.

If you're wondering [I]why[/I] child support is always awarded to the woman here you go: Woman consume far more than men. Woman rarely save. They spend. When you transfer the wealth from men (who may spend, say, $150 on grooming products) to women (Who may spend, say, $700 per year on grooming products) the money goes right back into the pockets of the people feeding you steaming bowls of shit.

Which leads me to my second point: There is no benefit for an American Man to marry an American Woman. Not a single benefit. Because he "loves" her is an absurdly stupid reason to willingly sign his life away. A marriage is a legal contract, you wouldn't sign any other legal contract in an emotional state...unless you're stupid. The flipside here is that a Man needs a good woman for love and support. Without a good woman with him and man will never see his full potential. Probably why you see such a state of arrested development in young men. Playing video games into the 30's, more and more gay's...men unfit to lead.

Whether she identifies with the feminist moniker or not doesn't mean anything, every American Woman has been indoctrinated with feminist ideology since the day she was born. And because of this they are completely unworthy of marriage. The only American Women that make good wives are devoutly religious women who grew up working (on a farm etc..). Those women are impossible to marry unless you yourself are from the same devoutly religious sect.

If you want to get married to a good woman and stay married you should go shopping for one in SE Asia, Eastern Europe, or South of the Border and pick a woman from a small town and has a good relationship with her father and make her sign a prenup.

If you marry an American Woman you can look forward to fucking a fat cow (it will happen), constant nagging and negativity, poor mothering, statistical eventual divorce where you forfeit half your earnings, and you will be dickless while married. American women don't want to BE married, they want to GET married. Don't make that mistake. She will always think that her perfect man is still out there somewhere (thank you "true love" movies) and she is willing to walk away from you as soon as you give up your alphaness. You have 2 options while married: constantly game your wife or be a dickless pile of shit.[/QUOTE]
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Postby Guest » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:17 am

You are right about the way American women are, at least Dallas women. I think all of you have tunnel vision because you've been in the city too long.

Now, I'm currently in Bumblefuck, Iowa. Zip Code: nowhere. I'll tell you with 94% scientific certainty that many of these farm girls are "lifers." It's just a different mentality around these small towns. A girl will stick by her man. It is not the same kind of girl out here as in the city.

They're pretty hot too.

You don't need to come all the way to Iowa to meet a girl like that. One day when you have some time, get in your car, and drive about 50 miles west. Stop in to some random hick town, find some cute girl, and start talking to her. You'll see what I mean.

See, I get what you're saying about wanting a non american girl. In fact I agree, I have a thing for Eastern Block women because frankly, they're insanely hot. But if you really think about it, what do we know about those women besides that their Soviet accents are sexy as fuck? A whole lotta nada, that's what. You think our culture is fucked up, what about one you've never been around?

The grass is always greener, my friend, that's my 2 cents and a coke.



The right women are out there, I don't doubt that. The thing is, we gotta have the right filters. For one thing, they're not in a bar in uptown or online. But besides that, I think the only way to get those filters is to date a lot of girls so you know what NOT to do.

Like my last serious girlfriend. She was everything you wrote in your post there. If I had stayed with her, I have no doubt I would have ended up in a messy divorce eventually. But from that, I learned to filter a few things out:

No girls who are TOO career-oriented.
No girls who are TOO demanding.
No girls who are from completely different cultures from me.
No girls who come from divorced families.
Etc etc

Add that to the list of things I've learned from past relationships.


But then, you remember the good as well as the bad, and you let that create filters FOR what you're looking for.

Like, it would have been easy to let this past relationship poison the way I look at girls, but then I remember my LTR in college who completely contradicts that.

Then we get out there and make it happen.
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Postby Guest » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:29 am

Grimm, there are a couple fatal flaws...

1) [B]Small town/Country girls will get fat[/B]. They will not keep themselves in shape because it isn't a priority to them. Foreign women likely will keep themselves in shape because...

A) They know their man won't fuck a fat cow
B) They didn't grow up eating the same type of garbage with the same "all you can eat" philosophy
C) They grew up walking and exercising regularly and that is instilled in them
D) Fat is acceptable here while it is unacceptable in the countries I have mentioned. Everyone else in her family is fat so she doesn't care.

If anyone here knows 5 women over the age of 35 who live and grew up in a small town and aren't a "hefty" size I would be flabbergasted.

3 women?

1?

I have spent plenty time in small towns and I can say with 100% certainty that the married women are enormous. They all get fat because they do not understand nutrition nor do they care about it.

2) [B]They are not very feminine[/B]. Not in the least. Frankly, that would be a fate worse than death. Marrying a young pretty thing that turns into an enormous monster capable of devouring a route 44 slushy and 2 extra long chilli cheese dogs in under a minute.

I grew up in small towns and I have family all over in small towns. YOU DO NOT WANT THAT. I would sooner give up half my $$$ and pay child support than stay with an unfeminine food monster.

Maybe small town Iowa is a magical place where beautiful women instinctively flock like the Salmon of Capistrano but Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, New Mexico, Arkansas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Alabama, Colorado, Florida and Louisiana are not.
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