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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:47 am

I believe that the girl you were talking to was fake.

In the land of make believe this is known as an ewhore.

(She/Most likely He) immediately got you to talk on messenger. This is their second trick. The first is to pose as a hot chick. Once they get you on messenger they will escalate the conversation quickly. They don't have a lot of time to spare since they are talking with 12 other guys as the same time. They want you to take the bait and go sexual asap. This gets you worked up thinking a super hot chick is all about you and wants to have premarital sexual intercourse with you.

Once you are all hot and bothered you are putty in their hands. It is now that they will suggest a meet up but be worried you aren't who you say you are. They will ask you to verify yourself on some site that requires you to put your credit card number in and sign up. They will say it is free but it will end up charging you hundreds of dollars.

Isn't the internet neat...
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:12 am

[QUOTE=playercool;36778]I believe that the girl you were talking to was fake.

In the land of make believe this is known as an ewhore.

(She/Most likely He) immediately got you to talk on messenger. This is their second trick. The first is to pose as a hot chick. Once they get you on messenger they will escalate the conversation quickly. They don't have a lot of time to spare since they are talking with 12 other guys as the same time. They want you to take the bait and go sexual asap. This gets you worked up thinking a super hot chick is all about you and wants to have premarital sexual intercourse with you.

Once you are all hot and bothered you are putty in their hands. It is now that they will suggest a meet up but be worried you aren't who you say you are. They will ask you to verify yourself on some site that requires you to put your credit card number in and sign up. They will say it is free but it will end up charging you hundreds of dollars.

Isn't the internet neat...[/QUOTE]

or it couldve been like in the movie "Out Cold." it was a guy posing as a girl to get you to have cyber sex with him. Lols hahaha!

But in all seriousness, if you have the extra cash, I would suggest taking lions advice. With a site that requires paid membership, the women have more invested, higher quality and low liklihood of being fake / scams.
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:38 pm

At one time I had a POF, Yahoo, and Match account. I have had more fake/scams on yahoo and match than I did POF. There are definitely the types looking for attention on all 3 of them. However I've never ran across any fakes/scams on POF. There are several lawsuits filed against Match and Yahoo for fake profiles to boost the numbers to make themselves look better.

POF is the only one I'd use. Had good success there and you can't beat the price. :o YMMV
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:16 pm

I've heard about the Match scams and I get them all the time. But, they are so easy to identify that it's not even funny. And, Match is really, really good about finding them and getting them off the site within 24 hours (this is why I wait 24+ hours before I respond to anyone).

Of all the sites, I've found Match to be vastly superior. I've used cupid, yahoo, AOL (back in the day), Match, eHarmony, and a few other niche ones like one for cougars and chicks with tats.

The niche sites are NEVER any good. Don't use them at all.

eHarmony sucks balls because the women on there are a lot more serious about meeting 'the one' and because you can't search for matches (eHarmony provides you with who they think you'll like). I've also found that the girls on there tend to be really, really needy and desperate. This makes sense given how they've positioned themselves and the absurd cost of being a member. And the way you communicate with women is way too structured.

The free sites are hit or miss. You definitely have to calibrate yourself a little differently in order for those sites to work. And, a lot of women on the free sites cannot seem to take a fucking joke. Seriously. I've met about a half dozen women off of POF, Cupid, and/or Yahoo, but usually they'll respond with a 'are you fucking serious' email. When things are free, it leads people to be a little more skeptical.

Match, IMO, is by far the best. The price is high enough to make the investment seem more meaningful, thus getting a more 'serious' demographic. But, the price isn't so high as to reek of desperation. Most women think, I'll give it a shot for a month...here's my $40. The interesting thing about Match is that, on several occasions, I met a girl IRL or saw her at a bar that I recognized from Match. I used to see women like this all the time. So, it kind of tells you that they DO go out and DO have options but they just aren't meeting guys they like. Also, a lot more girls on Match are secretive about being on there than say on POF or eHarmony. Not sure why, they just are. My guess is because they DO have options and feel like a loser because they've signed up for Internet dating. I've had at least 5 different women that I talked with on POF only to see her pop up a few months later on Match...on POF, I wasn't able to hook but once they migrated to Match I was (I'd actually used the same line on each of them). I think it has to do with the volume of responses chicks get from free sites AND the fact that they aren't really all that serious about meeting any one so they just sort of skim over emails or don't feel like responding. Once they start paying, it's a different story though.

Match is uber superior in my experience...but, remember, it's highly seasonal. Between the end of summer and Valentine's Day, there are a lot of high quality women on there. Outside of that time period, the pickings get a little more slim.
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:21 pm

[B]"Between the end of summer and Valentine's Day, there are a lot of high quality women on there. Outside of that time period, the pickings get a little more slim.[/B]

So it's like a school schedule?
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:32 pm

The girls on match are of a higher quality than on the others. The ones I have met are typically mature (not old), fun, with a good head on their shoulders, and good jobs. Except for the asian stripper, she was worthless. BR is quite right about the best time frames, I'm on match right now and it's just a shred of what it was in January/early February. I'm letting my inbox sit for days without responding to my e-mails. I still believe it's a better solution that the free sites.
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:34 pm

[QUOTE=Bull Run;36807]I've heard about the Match scams and I get them all the time. But, they are so easy to identify that it's not even funny. And, Match is really, really good about finding them and getting them off the site within 24 hours (this is why I wait 24+ hours before I respond to anyone).

Of all the sites, I've found Match to be vastly superior. I've used cupid, yahoo, AOL (back in the day), Match, eHarmony, and a few other niche ones like one for cougars and chicks with tats.

The niche sites are NEVER any good. Don't use them at all.

eHarmony sucks balls because the women on there are a lot more serious about meeting 'the one' and because you can't search for matches (eHarmony provides you with who they think you'll like). I've also found that the girls on there tend to be really, really needy and desperate. This makes sense given how they've positioned themselves and the absurd cost of being a member. And the way you communicate with women is way too structured.

The free sites are hit or miss. You definitely have to calibrate yourself a little differently in order for those sites to work. And, a lot of women on the free sites cannot seem to take a fucking joke. Seriously. I've met about a half dozen women off of POF, Cupid, and/or Yahoo, but usually they'll respond with a 'are you fucking serious' email. When things are free, it leads people to be a little more skeptical.

Match, IMO, is by far the best. The price is high enough to make the investment seem more meaningful, thus getting a more 'serious' demographic. But, the price isn't so high as to reek of desperation. Most women think, I'll give it a shot for a month...here's my $40. The interesting thing about Match is that, on several occasions, I met a girl IRL or saw her at a bar that I recognized from Match. I used to see women like this all the time. So, it kind of tells you that they DO go out and DO have options but they just aren't meeting guys they like. Also, a lot more girls on Match are secretive about being on there than say on POF or eHarmony. Not sure why, they just are. My guess is because they DO have options and feel like a loser because they've signed up for Internet dating. I've had at least 5 different women that I talked with on POF only to see her pop up a few months later on Match...on POF, I wasn't able to hook but once they migrated to Match I was (I'd actually used the same line on each of them). I think it has to do with the volume of responses chicks get from free sites AND the fact that they aren't really all that serious about meeting any one so they just sort of skim over emails or don't feel like responding. Once they start paying, it's a different story though.

Match is uber superior in my experience...but, remember, it's highly seasonal. Between the end of summer and Valentine's Day, there are a lot of high quality women on there. Outside of that time period, the pickings get a little more slim.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you about eHarmony. It's easy becuse you're literally preselected. So you go through the structured emails and you get a meeting out of it. But I agree that the women are all looking for a relationship, so the meetings are too formal. You have to work to make them fun.

I have mixed feelings about Match. On one hand, I get fewer responses than on free sites. Women seem to screen hard on Match, whereas women on POF are more casual and open. On the other hand, I have had as many lays from Match as I have from POF and with much more attractive women. I am usually disappointed when meeting a woman from POF. Just based on quality, though, I prefer Match.

I was wondering about fake profiles on Match. When they give you the 5 matches, I usually see one or two with a very attractive woman with only one picture. It just has a fake feeling to it. I wonder if those are fake profiles to make it seem like there are more attractive women on there.
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:30 pm

I figured there was something up when I sent her the first email on pof with one of my cheesy opening lines. And she replies with

"Do you have any IMs? because I hardly am able to get on here, but
I'm ALWAYS on IM :)

aim: ImAStupidLittleBitch <------ (Not the real screen name!)

I would be able to talk to you ALOT more on there :)"

I'm thinking "man, this is way too easy, something is up here."
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:44 pm

I just read that IM convo. She said that she made it to mess with pervs. Of course this one was fake!
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Postby Guest » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:56 pm

[QUOTE=Bull Run;36807]

Match, IMO, is by far the best. The price is high enough to make the investment seem more meaningful, thus getting a more 'serious' demographic. But, the price isn't so high as to reek of desperation. Most women think, I'll give it a shot for a month...here's my $40. The interesting thing about Match is that, on several occasions, I met a girl IRL or saw her at a bar that I recognized from Match. I used to see women like this all the time. So, it kind of tells you that they DO go out and DO have options but they just aren't meeting guys they like. Also, a lot more girls on Match are secretive about being on there than say on POF or eHarmony. Not sure why, they just are. My guess is because they DO have options and feel like a loser because they've signed up for Internet dating. I've had at least 5 different women that I talked with on POF only to see her pop up a few months later on Match...on POF, I wasn't able to hook but once they migrated to Match I was (I'd actually used the same line on each of them). I think it has to do with the volume of responses chicks get from free sites AND the fact that they aren't really all that serious about meeting any one so they just sort of skim over emails or don't feel like responding. Once they start paying, it's a different story though.

Match is uber superior in my experience...but, remember, it's highly seasonal. Between the end of summer and Valentine's Day, there are a lot of high quality women on there. Outside of that time period, the pickings get a little more slim.[/QUOTE]

Highly recommend Match.... I've had several LTRs (including current) from Match. You literally spend the price of Match subscription in a few drinks at a bar. There is almost no reason NOT to have a hook in the water on Match these days. From my experience POF sucked compared to match if you are looking for professional, got their shit together, women (as much as that's even possible) Not to say there aren't others on there....but the mere fact you need to pay a small fee eliminates so much of the riff raff.
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