The Law and Divorce

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Lol @ "be a man and suck it up"
How about instead "be an adult, and make an intelligent decision based on research and risk vs reward"

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[QUOTE=Muk;39938]Lol @ "be a man and suck it up"
How about instead "be an adult, and make an intelligent decision based on research and risk vs reward"[/QUOTE]
I said "be a man and suck it up IF IT FAILS". Thanks for the selectively edited quote. You utterly destroyed the meaning.

To each his own. I merely express an opinion (for which I am predictably slated).

And for the record I have absolutely no problem with people who don't want to get married. Again it is a personal choice. By all means stay single forever. But how do children (assuming one may want them) come into such an arrangement?

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[QUOTE=Lion;39925]Perhaps some fault lies within us as well.[/QUOTE]


One could argue that a true alpha male would take a wife and spend the remainder of his years gaming her and fighting to retain his moniker of alpha male, never waivering long enough for her to doubt his 'alphaness.'

Afterall, is it not true that women will behave exactly as we allow them to behave? Laws and society be damned. Women still have a primal desire to be with and loved by an alpha male. So what if she bitches about what a dick you are or how you don't really care or appreciate her? So what if you have to kick her ass to the curb more than a few times to instill the fear of you being void from her life? So what if you have to spice things up if things are going too well (never under estimate the power of purposefully pissing your woman off when things are seemingly perfect...it's the most powerful way to ensure that she respects you)?

Kind of like your tagline Lion:

Be so good they can't ignore you.

Be so alpha that she never has the chance to fall out of love with you.

Be so alpha that she's afraid you'll leave her at any moment.

Be so alpha that she'll hold on to her female beauty as long as possible out of fear of losing the ultimate biological prize: The Alpha Male's love.

Be so alpha that you put yourself first and her second. Always.

When you compare PUAs to slutty, bar rats I cannot see a difference in behaviors. They live parallel lives and one needs the other to justify their existence. Unfortunately, this lifestyle is finite. And when it's no longer an option, it must become a lonely, scary world to realize that your best days are behind you and can never be reclaimed. It must be horrible to know that you're just a used up piece of meat.

But, when you compare men, real men, to slutty, bar rats I see a parasitic relationship. The men use the slutty, bar rats for fun and sex. We build our masculinity on their backs, each conquest reinforces our masculinity which then breads more successful conquests and so on. As men, we are biologically wired to be sexual, aggressive, conquering...yet we have the desire to provide and protect. Society short circuited our innate masculinity through the feminist movement. This is our ticket to get back to right. Slutty, bar rats are our ticket to find and embrace the masculinity that we did not grow up with...ironically enough, the same forces that prevented us from understanding and embracing our masculinity are the same that encouraged women to become independent, pleasure seeking, status jockeying, and sexually promiscuous. Our cure to feminism was what they sought to create.

On the other hand, the slutty, bar rats use sex as their weapon to latch onto, and hopefully, keep the alpha male. Some will succeed. In time, the man will no longer seek out reassurance of his masculinity from slutty, bar rats. Instead, he will seek to build something real and meaningful. He will seek a wife and he will understand that taking a wife is just the beginning of a life long project. Potentially his greatest project.

But, the question remains. In a world full of slutty, bar rats are there any reclaimation projects that a worthy alpha male can take on?

I feel sorry for women most days. They *think* they chose this lifestyle of independence but they did not. It was thrust upon them by forces much more powerful than them. They have had their femininity stolen from them. Many will never know what it means to be a truely feminine woman. Many will never be able to fulfill the promise of their biology. Many will never really be a woman.

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BR,

The entirety of your post is true. I will post some of my retorts.

[QUOTE=Bull Run;39940]One could argue that a true alpha male would take a wife and spend the remainder of his years gaming her and fighting to retain his moniker of alpha male, never waivering long enough for her to doubt his 'alphaness.'[/QUOTE]

I did not make my first post solely for me. How does an average guy keep his wife in line? If feminized, he doesn't unless his wife already has those values.

[QUOTE=Bull Run;39940]Afterall, is it not true that women will behave exactly as we allow them to behave? [/QUOTE]

Yes. Because of everything I mentioned in my first post they are allowed to behave like heathen. To marry an American is to willingly give away your power. In a modern woman's mind, after you put the ring on her finger there is no uphill. Even if you leave her she will be completely taken care of. How's that for instilling fear in her mind..

[QUOTE=Bull Run;39940]Kind of like your tagline Lion:

Be so good they can't ignore you.

Be so alpha that she never has the chance to fall out of love with you.

Be so alpha that she's afraid you'll leave her at any moment.

Be so alpha that she'll hold on to her female beauty as long as possible out of fear of losing the ultimate biological prize: The Alpha Male's love.

Be so alpha that you put yourself first and her second. Always.[/QUOTE]

Feminization has created an environment where only the alpha male profits. Even though it works out for me because I can have the nastiest kind of sex I want, whenever I want, doesn't mean I don't see the injustice done to my country-men and the draconian laws in place to reward and "empower" women and possibly financially devastate men and take away access to his most precious, his children.

For me, myself, personally I am not afraid of my wife ever filing for divorce. What I am most concerned about is the lack of real feminine virtues and values, which is why I will outsource to circumnavigate that problem. I know a problem exists and I have a solution.

[QUOTE=Bull Run;39940]But, the question remains. In a world full of slutty, bar rats are there any reclaimation projects that a worthy alpha male can take on?[/QUOTE]

My answer is a resounding no.

[QUOTE=Bull Run;39940]I feel sorry for women most days. They *think* they chose this lifestyle of independence but they did not. It was thrust upon them by forces much more powerful than them. They have had their femininity stolen from them. Many will never know what it means to be a truely feminine woman. Many will never be able to fulfill the promise of their biology. Many will never really be a woman.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. I have been going on dates, real life dates where I talk to the girl instead of sexing her up right away, and I can say that many of the girls are emotionally void, soulless, lifeless, dead inside with no real values.


Goddamn! This thread turned into a monster!!

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If I may take the liberty..
[QUOTE=Lion;39946]
I did not make my first post solely for me. How does an average guy keep his wife in line? If feminized, he doesn't unless his wife already has those values.
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So then marry a girl with those values if you choose to be married at all. The ones without are not hard to spot. Basing a relationship on the right male vs female dynamic to start with (alpha frame etc.) will give a much larger chance of success long term.

[QUOTE=Lion;39946]
To marry an American is to willingly give away your power. In a modern woman's mind, after you put the ring on her finger there is no uphill. Even if you leave her she will be completely taken care of. How's that for instilling fear in her mind..
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I think it's a little drastic to group "all American women" into this category. Have you met every one? I see this has previously discussed to let's call this one rhetorical.

Also the notion she will be "completely taken care of" by divorcing and breaking up her family is complete nonsense and if you think that you are totally out of touch with reality.

[QUOTE=Lion;39946]
Feminization has created an environment where only the alpha male profits.
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The word you were looking for is evolution.

[QUOTE=Lion;39946]
Even though it works out for me because I can have the nastiest kind of sex I want, whenever I want, doesn't mean I don't see the injustice done to my country-men and the draconian laws in place to reward and "empower" women and possibly financially devastate men and take away access to his most precious, his children.
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Love yourself much? How altruistic of you to care about those poor saps. Are you a politician per chance?

[QUOTE=Lion;39946]
For me, myself, personally I am not afraid of my wife ever filing for divorce. What I am most concerned about is the lack of real feminine virtues and values, which is why I will outsource to circumnavigate that problem. I know a problem exists and I have a solution.
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What makes you think foreign women are any different? Are you a seasoned world traveller?

[QUOTE=Lion;39946]
I agree 100%. I have been going on dates, real life dates where I talk to the girl instead of sexing her up right away, and I can say that many of the girls are emotionally void, soulless, lifeless, dead inside with no real values.
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Then just next her? I mean obviously after you used them first.

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Excellent retort WD! Who's a good boy?!

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I see several of us are at the same point in the road or not too far from it. The last year or so I have raised my standards when it comes to the opposite sex in hopes to find a girl thats hot and has some value other than her looks. These days I require more out of a female before I go out with them than I used to. I spend more time getting to know them before I ever go out with them. Most don't impress me, as a result I go with out.

I've noticed there are a lot of losers out there(men & women) that have little to offer. Most are intimidated by a socio-economic status higher than their own. Most lack discipline & social skills to get ahead in life. I see a huge lack of respect with the games some of these hookers play.

As most of you do, when I'm not getting what I want out of life, I step back, regroup, and take a different direction. I don't think I'll find the quality of individual I am seeking in a bar or off the internet. I'm not saying quality people don't hang out in those places either but they are rare.

I've been looking around on meetup.com for young professional groups. I also want to get some sort of social circle going. Maybe you guys would be interested? I've even thought about starting my own dating site geared towards people with good jobs, no more than 1 divorce on your record, social skills, good family background, educated, NO SINGLE MOMS, etc. It would require some effort to join this site. You won't be able to just sign up, and throw a few words down like half these hookers do.

Who knows if this route will work either, but I'm going to give it a shot or else I'm looking outside these borders.

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[QUOTE=UncleHOwie;39950]I've even thought about starting my own dating site geared towards people with good jobs, no more than 1 divorce on your record, social skills, good family background, educated, NO SINGLE MOMS, etc. It would require some effort to join this site. You won't be able to just sign up, and throw a few words down like half these hookers do.
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I would pay good money for a site like that.

Where on earth does one meet a quality girl? Other than church (which I will never attend), or work (which I don't do), or a mall (I rarely shop), where are these magical ladies hiding? Any day-gamers want to chime in?

Edit: On second thought, a site like that would start with all the women on a big ass pedestal. Hmmm.....

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[QUOTE=Welsh_Dragon;39948]If I may take the liberty..
What makes you think foreign women are any different? Are you a seasoned world traveller?
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I don't agree with all the comments here - I'm one who eventually wants to get married - but a theme I've noticed in traveling and dating non-American women vs. American ones (I've only been in the US for ~ six years anyway) is that foreign women are much more passionate and loyal (yes, I'm generalizing).

In fact, the number of American women who had a cold-fish / detached attitude towards relationships and intimacy far outnumbered those of the non-American women I've known.

It's easy to take a cavalier attitude to all this and say that things are no different here than there, but local cultures do seem to play a large role in male-female dynamics.

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Let me tell you some real world personal examples of why I think foreign women are better!

1. I have yet to cold approach a foreign woman at a bar and get blown out. I am batting 100pct success on that and the conversation's always flow nicely. Its a lot easier when you have something to work with who doesn't think shes better than you from the start! I think it has to do with education and a genuine appreciation for good conversation. These american bitches would rather sit in the corner and talk to no one than have a convo with some random guy.

2. I used to work at a company that employeed close to 1000people. I interfaced with many of them. Americans were in the minority. There were 30 different nationalities represented. By far the most respectful and hardest working, and the ones with the most social skills were the LATINOS(Mexico, Peru, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Chile)!

3. Every time I go to Mexico I am amazed how the woman takes care of the man. She is there to support him and shows a ton of respect for him.

4. The corporation I work for is a european owned company and is worlds apart from an american corporation. I've worked for both. The appreciation and respect I am shown is amazing compared to an american owned corporation where you are just a number and slave to the company.

5. I've been hanging out in titty bars for the past 18years and have seen the decline of the american woman in those places. The american stripper no longer puts on a show. She no longer wears elaborate costumes. She no longer puts on a different outfit every time she comes out. She rarely invests in you before she asks for a lap dance. She doesn't have social skills, sales skills, can't dance, nor does she have any showmanship skills. She used to make her money on the mainstage.

Now days she makes her money in the back room slobbing on some guys knob. That shit used to not happen. It runs rampant now days.

Civilian girls(non-dancers) aren't immune from this downfall either. One need not look too far for proof. American women no longer cook, clean, raise babies, support & respect their men, etc. They're too good for that now days.

6. My buddy and I had two Russian hotties invite us to their table one nite while we were at a small bar/restaurant in Addison. I have never had any american girl invite me to their table. I bet I never will either. American girls lack personal confidence, fear rejection, and overvalue their pussy anyways. Their fragile egoes couldn't take that chance.

7. They don't have all this social media and fucked up tv in 3rd world countries that corrupt people. All this faKebook crap has created pseudo celebrities living in an imaginary world who seek instant gratification.

These 3rd world countries still have good women because they aren't developed, believe in God, and believe in the goodness that comes from family.