[QUOTE=Bull Run;37658]You've been LBJFed because she's leaning on you for emotional support and you haven't fuck her yet...if you have, then you're right and I'm wrong.
If you wish to dominate them, then fine that's your choice. But, it doesn't make you exceptional in the least. Any one with a strong frame and enough balls can impress her...that doesn't make you all that special and that spells disaster for you. Be rare, be unique, don't be a commodity otherwise she'll substitue your chicken for a little pork...
PS: My response was backed up by several guys that are in the know regarding this shit...take it to heart, I feel as if you've made a few excuses to justify what you are already going to do, in which case our advice is useless...you're going to do what you want, end of story...
Good luck.[/QUOTE]
Your completely right I do realize upon looking back at my reply I am justifying myself. I will also admit I will ignore some of the advice and continue to play with fire. I guess in that case the best thing to do I'm hearing is
A. be different
b. be a dick, do not nurture her
c. bang her to close the deal nothing else will
Seems obvious but I didn't couldn't think of it on my own, my judgement is currently impaired by emotions. Thanks for all the support if there's anything else I'm all ears. I guess we'll see on day 4 if I really do or don't get it, I'll update either way for better or worse.
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by Guest » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:21 am
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37659]my judgement is currently impaired by emotions.[/QUOTE]
This tells us everything we need to know about the outcome.
I hope we're wrong for the sake of a brother, but some things are tried and true. When you make emotional decisions, you have to deal with the consequences...and, they're never positive.
This tells us everything we need to know about the outcome.
I hope we're wrong for the sake of a brother, but some things are tried and true. When you make emotional decisions, you have to deal with the consequences...and, they're never positive.
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by Guest » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:13 am
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37659]Your completely right I do realize upon looking back at my reply I am justifying myself. I will also admit I will ignore some of the advice and continue to play with fire. I guess in that case the best thing to do I'm hearing is
A. be different[/QUOTE]
I would say be different in the sense that most guys would run. If you can withstand her tantrums, you will be strong in her eyes and she will want to reward you in the only way she knows how.
In fact, her tantrums are tests to see if you will run.
[quote]b. be a dick, do not nurture her[/quote]
IMO, it's not entirely necessary to be a dick [I]per se[/I]. Just don't let her problems become your problems. Let her solve her own problems. Just be there when the storm passes, no matter how you behave during the storm, and she will think she has a bond with you. Although, if you start to give a shit about her problems, then you will become her therapist not her lover. For your sake, I hope you don't do that.
I will warn you, though. It is very hard to be a happy, unaffected, well-adjusted person when you stand so close to a tornado of negativity and chaos.
[quote]c. bang her to close the deal nothing else will[/quote]
Yeah, that's what a relationship is to her. You don't have one unless you fuck her.
[quote]Seems obvious but I didn't couldn't think of it on my own, my judgement is currently impaired by emotions. Thanks for all the support if there's anything else I'm all ears. I guess we'll see on day 4 if I really do or don't get it, I'll update either way for better or worse.[/quote]
A. be different[/QUOTE]
I would say be different in the sense that most guys would run. If you can withstand her tantrums, you will be strong in her eyes and she will want to reward you in the only way she knows how.
In fact, her tantrums are tests to see if you will run.
[quote]b. be a dick, do not nurture her[/quote]
IMO, it's not entirely necessary to be a dick [I]per se[/I]. Just don't let her problems become your problems. Let her solve her own problems. Just be there when the storm passes, no matter how you behave during the storm, and she will think she has a bond with you. Although, if you start to give a shit about her problems, then you will become her therapist not her lover. For your sake, I hope you don't do that.
I will warn you, though. It is very hard to be a happy, unaffected, well-adjusted person when you stand so close to a tornado of negativity and chaos.
[quote]c. bang her to close the deal nothing else will[/quote]
Yeah, that's what a relationship is to her. You don't have one unless you fuck her.
[quote]Seems obvious but I didn't couldn't think of it on my own, my judgement is currently impaired by emotions. Thanks for all the support if there's anything else I'm all ears. I guess we'll see on day 4 if I really do or don't get it, I'll update either way for better or worse.[/quote]
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by Guest » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:15 pm
***UPDATE*** still havn't laid her but turns out she only believes in banging a guy that has completely committed to being her BF. It started off I was competing against over 10 other guys and slowly it came down to me an one other guy an her EX. The ex "broke their agreement" and thus he's out of the picture. Now its down to me and this other guy. What a shit storm ha ha
Just like all of you guys said it would be, but out of this experiences I gained a TON of new friends that are HB's and a few people I could now call close friends. I learned a lot about the game. Here's a few things I learned....
1. talking about your emotions with REAL people not just online is incredibly healthy and satisfying.
2. When pursuing a girl as arduously as I did any girl you come across to get advice from will become interested in you for some reason (previously was only dated girls) Also the net effect of seeing how awesome you are and the extremes you willing to go to for this girl makes these other girls jealous and want you...(a waitress even over heard my talking once and gave me her number)
3. These rules in the PUA rules aren't absolute. People are different, the rules are just generally true...you really need to go out there and experience different people to get better at gauging for yourself what needs to happen at a certain level. IE you do not have to fuck her by day 3 (in this instance it worked against me) but in most cases from my experience yes you do.
It looks like the end of the road which is why i post this....but I have a hail mary thing i've been working on.....will let you know if it works but I have my strong doubts.
Just like all of you guys said it would be, but out of this experiences I gained a TON of new friends that are HB's and a few people I could now call close friends. I learned a lot about the game. Here's a few things I learned....
1. talking about your emotions with REAL people not just online is incredibly healthy and satisfying.
2. When pursuing a girl as arduously as I did any girl you come across to get advice from will become interested in you for some reason (previously was only dated girls) Also the net effect of seeing how awesome you are and the extremes you willing to go to for this girl makes these other girls jealous and want you...(a waitress even over heard my talking once and gave me her number)
3. These rules in the PUA rules aren't absolute. People are different, the rules are just generally true...you really need to go out there and experience different people to get better at gauging for yourself what needs to happen at a certain level. IE you do not have to fuck her by day 3 (in this instance it worked against me) but in most cases from my experience yes you do.
It looks like the end of the road which is why i post this....but I have a hail mary thing i've been working on.....will let you know if it works but I have my strong doubts.
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by Guest » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:50 pm
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]***UPDATE*** still havn't laid her but turns out she only believes in banging a guy that has completely committed to being her BF. It started off I was competing against over 10 other guys and slowly it came down to me an one other guy an her EX. The ex "broke their agreement" and thus he's out of the picture. Now its down to me and this other guy. What a shit storm ha ha[/QUOTE]
I'm 99.357876193% confident that her committed boyfriend rule is bullshit and is just an excuse to stop you from trying to fuck her OR a massive shit test that she needs for you to pass.
Having that many suitors is great and all, but she views you and the others as commodities. In a house full of toilet paper, she's not going to care which roll she uses to whip her ass with...same thing here. Jesus, women that think you hung the moon are tough enough...I can't imagine being with a girl that so obviously views men as replacable.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]2. When pursuing a girl as arduously as I did any girl you come across to get advice from will become interested in you for some reason (previously was only dated girls) Also the net effect of seeing how awesome you are and the extremes you willing to go to for this girl makes these other girls jealous and want you...(a waitress even over heard my talking once and gave me her number).[/QUOTE]
On the surface this is true. But, it does not translate into wet pussies. Women want men that are aloof and a challenge, not one that will bend over backwards to win one of them over. 50 years ago, the persistent man was considered attractive because courtship was a coy game...the girl said 'no' but meant 'yes.' Today is different. Girls say 'yes' but mean 'no.' Instead of keep working for me, they want to work for you.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]It looks like the end of the road which is why i post this....but I have a hail mary thing i've been working on.....will let you know if it works but I have my strong doubts.[/QUOTE]
If it works it will be bittersweet. You'll have won the day, which is great. But, this girl sounds like the type that will chew you up and spit you out. She's a Maneater brother...Either way, good luck.
I'm 99.357876193% confident that her committed boyfriend rule is bullshit and is just an excuse to stop you from trying to fuck her OR a massive shit test that she needs for you to pass.
Having that many suitors is great and all, but she views you and the others as commodities. In a house full of toilet paper, she's not going to care which roll she uses to whip her ass with...same thing here. Jesus, women that think you hung the moon are tough enough...I can't imagine being with a girl that so obviously views men as replacable.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]2. When pursuing a girl as arduously as I did any girl you come across to get advice from will become interested in you for some reason (previously was only dated girls) Also the net effect of seeing how awesome you are and the extremes you willing to go to for this girl makes these other girls jealous and want you...(a waitress even over heard my talking once and gave me her number).[/QUOTE]
On the surface this is true. But, it does not translate into wet pussies. Women want men that are aloof and a challenge, not one that will bend over backwards to win one of them over. 50 years ago, the persistent man was considered attractive because courtship was a coy game...the girl said 'no' but meant 'yes.' Today is different. Girls say 'yes' but mean 'no.' Instead of keep working for me, they want to work for you.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]It looks like the end of the road which is why i post this....but I have a hail mary thing i've been working on.....will let you know if it works but I have my strong doubts.[/QUOTE]
If it works it will be bittersweet. You'll have won the day, which is great. But, this girl sounds like the type that will chew you up and spit you out. She's a Maneater brother...Either way, good luck.
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by Guest » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:06 pm
OP, I just have one bit of advice, and this is me nitpicking, quit being a gullible homo.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]***UPDATE*** still havn't laid her but turns out she only believes in banging a guy that has completely committed to being her BF. [/QUOTE]
No she doesn't. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If you had balls of steel she would be blowing you right now.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]Now its down to me and this other guy. What a shit storm ha ha [/QUOTE]
Do you know how fucking gay you sound?
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]2. When pursuing a girl as arduously as I did any girl you come across to get advice from will become interested in you for some reason (previously was only dated girls) Also the net effect of seeing how awesome you are and the extremes you willing to go to for this girl makes these other girls jealous and want you...(a waitress even over heard my talking once and gave me her number)[/QUOTE]
That's because you are UNAVAILABLE. Use that.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]3. These rules in the PUA rules aren't absolute. People are different, the rules are just generally true...you really need to go out there and experience different people to get better at gauging for yourself what needs to happen at a certain level. IE you do not have to fuck her by day 3 (in this instance it worked against me) but in most cases from my experience yes you do.[/QUOTE]
Oh really, Casanova? Is that how you landed your current girlfriend?
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968].....will let you know if it works but I have my strong doubts.[/QUOTE]
That's the first honest thing you said.
OP, I use harsh words because you don't listen. You come here for advice, get great advice, dismiss it, and end up the Beta loser.
Take some friendly advice and Man the fuck up.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]***UPDATE*** still havn't laid her but turns out she only believes in banging a guy that has completely committed to being her BF. [/QUOTE]
No she doesn't. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If you had balls of steel she would be blowing you right now.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]Now its down to me and this other guy. What a shit storm ha ha [/QUOTE]
Do you know how fucking gay you sound?
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]2. When pursuing a girl as arduously as I did any girl you come across to get advice from will become interested in you for some reason (previously was only dated girls) Also the net effect of seeing how awesome you are and the extremes you willing to go to for this girl makes these other girls jealous and want you...(a waitress even over heard my talking once and gave me her number)[/QUOTE]
That's because you are UNAVAILABLE. Use that.
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968]3. These rules in the PUA rules aren't absolute. People are different, the rules are just generally true...you really need to go out there and experience different people to get better at gauging for yourself what needs to happen at a certain level. IE you do not have to fuck her by day 3 (in this instance it worked against me) but in most cases from my experience yes you do.[/QUOTE]
Oh really, Casanova? Is that how you landed your current girlfriend?
[QUOTE=ahealthyguy;37968].....will let you know if it works but I have my strong doubts.[/QUOTE]
That's the first honest thing you said.
OP, I use harsh words because you don't listen. You come here for advice, get great advice, dismiss it, and end up the Beta loser.
Take some friendly advice and Man the fuck up.
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by Guest » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:12 pm
[QUOTE=Bull Run;37969]
Having that many suitors is great and all, but she views you and the others as commodities. In a house full of toilet paper, she's not going to care which roll she uses to [B]whip[/B] her ass with...
[/QUOTE]
I'll whip her. [IMG]http://www.club3g.com/forum/images/smilies/dancingnaughty.gif[/IMG]
Having that many suitors is great and all, but she views you and the others as commodities. In a house full of toilet paper, she's not going to care which roll she uses to [B]whip[/B] her ass with...
[/QUOTE]
I'll whip her. [IMG]http://www.club3g.com/forum/images/smilies/dancingnaughty.gif[/IMG]
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by Guest » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:39 pm
[QUOTE=Bull Run;37969]Having that many suitors is great and all, but she views you and the others as commodities. In a house full of toilet paper, she's not going to care which roll she uses to whip her ass with...same thing here. Jesus, women that think you hung the moon are tough enough...I can't imagine being with a girl that so obviously views men as replacable.[/QUOTE]
This behavior is not consistent with a girl who has daddy issues. She might actually have some self esteem. Women who have daddy issues tend to be investors who give themselves completely to one man at a time and allow him to shit all over them, while this one seems like an interviewer who plays the field and views herself as a prize.
This behavior is not consistent with a girl who has daddy issues. She might actually have some self esteem. Women who have daddy issues tend to be investors who give themselves completely to one man at a time and allow him to shit all over them, while this one seems like an interviewer who plays the field and views herself as a prize.
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