How do you trust?

[Lion]

Dubya, good post. Sperm Wars destroyed any thoughts I had that some women could keep their integrity and a good character. I don't know which is better, to know the truth about women or to live blissfully ignorant.

[Twitchy]

I recently read an article in Time magazine. Researchers did a study and found that the average human lies 60,000 times in their lifetime. The study was done in Britian but I am sure it applies around the world.

Most of the lies were white lies - social grease so to speak. However, a lie is a lie and we humans all do it.

Another interesting study I read was around relationships and divorce. Scientists think that one of hte biggest contributers to divorce is the same tool that has liberated women - the birth control pill.

The pill not only has the obvious impact of allowing a woman to choose when and with who she wants a baby but it also has chemical impacts too.

There are a series of chemicals that men and women produce. Some of these are found in saliva. These chemicals help determine sexual attraction. However, the pill blocks the woman's ability to sense these chemicals.

So, a woman finds a man attractive with her eyes and feelings but not her body composition because she is single and on the pill. Their relationship progresses....they get engaged, get married, start a life together.

Then, when the couple decides to start having a family, the woman comes off the pill. She suddenly can sense the chemicals and finds that she is no longer attracted to her "mate".

My writeup is a summary. Attached is the link if you want to read the article. I recommend it.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article ... ter-weekly

All that being said, I have never had a woman cheat on my (that I know of). If you are confident, a leader, a provider and respect her, most women will be content to enjoy you and not look elsewhere.

[Alphagame]

Women are more like animals following their instincts than people with brains. Some are more inclined to cheat than others, but if the right guy comes along and says the right the things and does the right things and the circumstances are just right, she'll fuck him.

Two of the girls I'm in text game with right now are both gonna cheat on their beta male boyfriends with me. I haven't fucked them yet, but I will fuck them both. One is engaged to be married and the other has a serious boyfriend of over a year. I WILL fuck both of these girls. Guarantee it.

They all cheat. Accept it. Deal with it. It's life.

[Dragon]

Honestly, this is a subject I have had to think about a lot in the last year, since my wife "fell" for someone else. There were small deceptions and lies, and big deceptions and lies. She agreed to things, and then went back on it.

I cannot determine what she was thinking. But I can say that it fractured an implicit trust I had in her. And when I say implicit, I mean it. Had she told me she was kidnapped by aliens, fought a galactic war, and was a hero to the entire universe, I would have believed her.

The fact I discovered is that trust can be given initially, and trust can be rebuilt. It's hard as hell, and sometimes, it bites you in the ass, and you are surprised again (After all, my wife and I seperated about a month ago).

Now, I do not have a lot of experience in the pick up community; In fact, I am entering it to try and make myself into a high value man more than I am in it for any women.

I do have a little experience in building up broken trust again, but as I said, sometimes it shoots you in the foot.

However, it looks like you are trying to find a way to give that initial trust. I used to say this: "Trust until trust is broken. When it is, rip their freaking heart out." I have realized that trust will almost always be tested, if not broken. At that point it becomes a matter of what you can stand given your core values.

All in all, I can just say, try to trust, and you may find it easier than you think. And maybe it hurts to be surprised, but I think I prefer the idea I'd be surprised to the idea of always looking out for a betrayal. I spent the last year doing it, and it tore me up.

Sorry for the rambling, and not sure if it helped... but there it is.

Good Post... I am in the same boat you are in.



The day after I found out my wife was cheating on me... I had so much rage I was going to shoot the guy/my ex-friend. I was told I had to see a counselor right away. I ended up seeing my pastor. He basically told me "if I was you and my wife had done what your wife had done, I would leave". A pastor told me to leave the marriage. I told him I couldn't trust her anymore and he told me I was right. But I was to trust God and not her.

So what this boils down to is not Trusting her (because you can't EVER trust a lying sack of @E#$^#$^%#$!!!!!) but to trust God that things will work itself out somehow. Or in another words have a strong frame.

[Dragon]

Dubya, good post. Sperm Wars destroyed any thoughts I had that some women could keep their integrity and a good character. I don't know which is better, to know the truth about women or to live blissfully ignorant.

Blissful igorance was GREAT while it lasted and than reality sets in and its a b!tch ("Reality" that is ... not her..) I hate the Game but it is Reality.