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by Guest » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:57 pm
[QUOTE=sooners123;37004]@Rhody and Carnal
She suggested one week. I suggested to extend the break (in an attempt to keep power). You're dead on that we've gotten defensive and immature. It's something that's causing both of us stress. I can only change my way of communicating to fix it. I also agree that we can't fix a relationship by taking a break. I will call her in a couple of days and ask her to meet me to talk.[/QUOTE]
Here is some unqualified advice. If you don't want or need it, ignore it.
Don't ever expect her to change the core of who she is. You can, however, change her behavior toward you.
I would talk to her soon and say something like, "I have been thinking, and something became very clear to me. I want to work on the relationship, but taking a break feels like quitting to me, and I'm not a quitter. I want to actively work on the relationship. I care about you, and I recognize that I have developed some bad habbits with you. I have been defensive and childish. I know I'm a better man than that."
Here, you're talking about yourself, but she should see that it applies to her as well.
"What I want is for us to stop bickering and start communicating more effectively. I want to find out what the real problem is and find a solution to that problem. No insults, no defensiveness, no excuses, just problems and solutions. I think if we both do this, then we will not only solve the issues between us, but we will also show each other how much we care through our actions."
When discussing problems, it should be in the form of "I" statements. Like, "I need some time to spend with my friends" or "I feel defensive when you talk about my mother." Do not disguise "you" statements as "I" statements like, "I feel that you're a manipulative bitch." And when she tells you her problems, you just listen and say, "what do you need from me?" Never defend your feelings, wants, or needs. If she questions why you feel the way you do, just say, "I was clear about how I feel."
If you can't give her what she needs or she can't give you what you need, then it's time to walk away. A man is direct about what he wants and needs, and he walks away when he knows he's not going to get it.
If she gives you a hard time about the whole thing, then say, "you're right. It's impossible." If she doesn't argue about that statement, then she wants out. Give her what she wants.
She suggested one week. I suggested to extend the break (in an attempt to keep power). You're dead on that we've gotten defensive and immature. It's something that's causing both of us stress. I can only change my way of communicating to fix it. I also agree that we can't fix a relationship by taking a break. I will call her in a couple of days and ask her to meet me to talk.[/QUOTE]
Here is some unqualified advice. If you don't want or need it, ignore it.
Don't ever expect her to change the core of who she is. You can, however, change her behavior toward you.
I would talk to her soon and say something like, "I have been thinking, and something became very clear to me. I want to work on the relationship, but taking a break feels like quitting to me, and I'm not a quitter. I want to actively work on the relationship. I care about you, and I recognize that I have developed some bad habbits with you. I have been defensive and childish. I know I'm a better man than that."
Here, you're talking about yourself, but she should see that it applies to her as well.
"What I want is for us to stop bickering and start communicating more effectively. I want to find out what the real problem is and find a solution to that problem. No insults, no defensiveness, no excuses, just problems and solutions. I think if we both do this, then we will not only solve the issues between us, but we will also show each other how much we care through our actions."
When discussing problems, it should be in the form of "I" statements. Like, "I need some time to spend with my friends" or "I feel defensive when you talk about my mother." Do not disguise "you" statements as "I" statements like, "I feel that you're a manipulative bitch." And when she tells you her problems, you just listen and say, "what do you need from me?" Never defend your feelings, wants, or needs. If she questions why you feel the way you do, just say, "I was clear about how I feel."
If you can't give her what she needs or she can't give you what you need, then it's time to walk away. A man is direct about what he wants and needs, and he walks away when he knows he's not going to get it.
If she gives you a hard time about the whole thing, then say, "you're right. It's impossible." If she doesn't argue about that statement, then she wants out. Give her what she wants.
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by Guest » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:11 pm
Before you have any conversation with her, I implore for you to look inside yourself and determine what your values are.
How do you expect to be treated? What do you expect from those that you care for and love? What is acceptable and unacceptable behavior? Do you hold yourself to the standards you set for others?
In other words, what is your belief system? What values define you as a man (i.e. loyalty, respect, dignity, man of action, man of your word, etc.)?
The next thing you need to do is ask yourself if this woman is treating you the way that you expect, as a man, to be treated. If the answer is no, then you must articulate what you need from her in order for you to be happy. Phrase it as such: XYZ are my values, they are what guides me throughout my life and allow for me to make decisions that are right for and true to me, as a man.
Normally, I would not have this conversation with her about what you require as a man from your loved ones. But, I suspect you've never really told her what you need and want. It's not something people generally pick-up on unless you make it clear. Anyway, give her the chance to understand where you're coming from...if she cannot or will not comply, then you owe it to yourself to stay true to what you value and what defines you as a person.
I can speak from experience that if you turn your back on the things that you require and value for a woman then you'll turn into a slave to a relationship that doesn't provide you with the things you need to be happy.
Most likely though, you failed to properly set the boundaries you require a woman to not cross. She, clearly, has crossed them...and, once a woman crosses a boundary you set you almost never prevent her from crossing them again.
Good luck though.
How do you expect to be treated? What do you expect from those that you care for and love? What is acceptable and unacceptable behavior? Do you hold yourself to the standards you set for others?
In other words, what is your belief system? What values define you as a man (i.e. loyalty, respect, dignity, man of action, man of your word, etc.)?
The next thing you need to do is ask yourself if this woman is treating you the way that you expect, as a man, to be treated. If the answer is no, then you must articulate what you need from her in order for you to be happy. Phrase it as such: XYZ are my values, they are what guides me throughout my life and allow for me to make decisions that are right for and true to me, as a man.
Normally, I would not have this conversation with her about what you require as a man from your loved ones. But, I suspect you've never really told her what you need and want. It's not something people generally pick-up on unless you make it clear. Anyway, give her the chance to understand where you're coming from...if she cannot or will not comply, then you owe it to yourself to stay true to what you value and what defines you as a person.
I can speak from experience that if you turn your back on the things that you require and value for a woman then you'll turn into a slave to a relationship that doesn't provide you with the things you need to be happy.
Most likely though, you failed to properly set the boundaries you require a woman to not cross. She, clearly, has crossed them...and, once a woman crosses a boundary you set you almost never prevent her from crossing them again.
Good luck though.
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by Guest » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:54 am
[QUOTE=Bull Run;37008]Normally, I would not have this conversation with her about what you require as a man from your loved ones. But, I suspect you've never really told her what you need and want. It's not something people generally pick-up on unless you make it clear. Anyway, give her the chance to understand where you're coming from...if she cannot or will not comply, then you owe it to yourself to stay true to what you value and what defines you as a person.[/QUOTE]
I agree that these are things that should be established through your consitent behavior from the beginning. It's not good to talk about them. It's better to have her learn them through your actions. But if you don't establish that from the beginning, then you have to start somehwere.
[quote]Most likely though, you failed to properly set the boundaries you require a woman to not cross. She, clearly, has crossed them...and, once a woman crosses a boundary you set you almost never prevent her from crossing them again.[/quote]
Right. You can't fault a woman for crossing boundaries you never established. Actually, you did establish boundaries (or she did) by letting her get away with certain behaviors. Setting new boundaries is much harder than being clear and consistent from day one.
I know from experience that sometimes a woman has her own ideas about what her behavior should be. When you've honestly tried your best and it still doesn't work for you, then you really have to walk away. This is something a lot of men fail to do, and they end up in really unhappy relationships where he's miserable and she doesn't respect him.
I agree that these are things that should be established through your consitent behavior from the beginning. It's not good to talk about them. It's better to have her learn them through your actions. But if you don't establish that from the beginning, then you have to start somehwere.
[quote]Most likely though, you failed to properly set the boundaries you require a woman to not cross. She, clearly, has crossed them...and, once a woman crosses a boundary you set you almost never prevent her from crossing them again.[/quote]
Right. You can't fault a woman for crossing boundaries you never established. Actually, you did establish boundaries (or she did) by letting her get away with certain behaviors. Setting new boundaries is much harder than being clear and consistent from day one.
I know from experience that sometimes a woman has her own ideas about what her behavior should be. When you've honestly tried your best and it still doesn't work for you, then you really have to walk away. This is something a lot of men fail to do, and they end up in really unhappy relationships where he's miserable and she doesn't respect him.
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by Guest » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:23 am
[QUOTE=Rhody;37012]When you've honestly tried your best and it still doesn't work for you, then you really have to walk away. This is something a lot of men fail to do, and they end up in really unhappy relationships where he's miserable and she doesn't respect him.[/QUOTE]
Interesting thing about that is that it works both ways. A few years before I ever got in the Game, I cheated on my LTR at the time. She found out and PROMPTLY forgave me and stayed. Now, forgiving is one thing (we should all forgive people for what they've done...eventually) but staying is another. She was a very traditional girl and believed one girl and one guy. That was her value set, supposedly, but she turned her back on that and she stayed for me. Now, I'm not saying I'm not worth it because I am. But, turning your back on your values is never worth it, never.
When she decided to stay, I instantly lost all respect for her. And broke up with her a few weeks later. I knew since I had crossed the boundary without any repercussions that I would eventually do it again AND I thought she was pathetic for throwing herself and her values under the bus for me.
Fast forward a few years later and I met a girl while I was in the midst of my crazy sarging time. We dated a few weeks then I told her I wanted to see other people. She left. I saw other people. A few weeks later I reconnected with her and wanted to date her again, on a more serious level. She said no. She said she was second and that she never wants to be second. That was her value system speaking right there. That's what she needed to be happy. After she told me that, I instantly had more respect for her as a person because she clearly had respect for herself. That attitude became central to what I want in a woman.
The point is this. Sometimes, walking away is the only thing you can do. And, more often than not, when you do walk away you create a dynamic in which the girl actually respects you more than she did before. It's a lose-lose situation. If you stay, you lose yourself. If you leave, you lose her. But, which is more important in the long-run. That you can stand talk and say that you adhered to those things that were most important to you and your life? Or that you turned your back on your values so you could be in a relationship?
From a logical perspective, it's a simple choice really. But, emotions have a tendency of clouding the facts. I'm not trying to say you should stay or leave. I'm just saying that you should think about this before you make a decision that you'll regret down the road. There was a time, recently, when I didn't listen to my head and I made a decision that was very costly and painful.
Interesting thing about that is that it works both ways. A few years before I ever got in the Game, I cheated on my LTR at the time. She found out and PROMPTLY forgave me and stayed. Now, forgiving is one thing (we should all forgive people for what they've done...eventually) but staying is another. She was a very traditional girl and believed one girl and one guy. That was her value set, supposedly, but she turned her back on that and she stayed for me. Now, I'm not saying I'm not worth it because I am. But, turning your back on your values is never worth it, never.
When she decided to stay, I instantly lost all respect for her. And broke up with her a few weeks later. I knew since I had crossed the boundary without any repercussions that I would eventually do it again AND I thought she was pathetic for throwing herself and her values under the bus for me.
Fast forward a few years later and I met a girl while I was in the midst of my crazy sarging time. We dated a few weeks then I told her I wanted to see other people. She left. I saw other people. A few weeks later I reconnected with her and wanted to date her again, on a more serious level. She said no. She said she was second and that she never wants to be second. That was her value system speaking right there. That's what she needed to be happy. After she told me that, I instantly had more respect for her as a person because she clearly had respect for herself. That attitude became central to what I want in a woman.
The point is this. Sometimes, walking away is the only thing you can do. And, more often than not, when you do walk away you create a dynamic in which the girl actually respects you more than she did before. It's a lose-lose situation. If you stay, you lose yourself. If you leave, you lose her. But, which is more important in the long-run. That you can stand talk and say that you adhered to those things that were most important to you and your life? Or that you turned your back on your values so you could be in a relationship?
From a logical perspective, it's a simple choice really. But, emotions have a tendency of clouding the facts. I'm not trying to say you should stay or leave. I'm just saying that you should think about this before you make a decision that you'll regret down the road. There was a time, recently, when I didn't listen to my head and I made a decision that was very costly and painful.
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by Guest » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:45 pm
[QUOTE=sooners123;36975]I'm trying to make my relationship with HB8 mexican work. We've been together for 2.5 months.
I'm not really sure how to describe the situation, so I'll just describe how we interacted throughout the relationship
1) 0-1.5 months: we were both very touchy feely and spent a lot of time together (4-5 days a week). We'd have sex a few times a day every time we saw each other. All the feelings were positive.
2) 1.5 months-2 months: I noticed that she was less attracted to me because I was being pretty needy. Sex dropped down to once a day, but it was still good sex (she would orgasm most of the time, and of course I did too). At one point, I made the mistake of making her feel like shit after sex, and we start fighting. She seems distant.
3) 2 months to current: We've been fighting a lot. We're both on edge and we take jabs at each other. When the other jokes, the other takes it seriously. It's very frustrating. She is no longer in the mood for sex. To combat the neediness that I held, I became more of an ass. When I am an ass, she responds better and wants to have sex. However, she still feels like I'm taking jabs at her when I become an ass. I'm in a catch 22, because I want to be emotionally supportive but I also want her to feel attracted again. I feel like I've dropped into the provider role. We both buy each other things and dinner, but she seems to value that I'm able to provide.
Throughout the whole time, we may have a 2-3 day break a week from each other.
We're now at the point of trying to save the relationship. We've decided last week to take a two week break, but still remain exclusive. I really do like her and want to keep the relationship alive. She makes me happy and has many of the qualities that I'm looking for.
Any advice on this? How can I run some damage control??[/QUOTE]
Ok... my opinion differs on this from playing any games. I'll put my balls on the line with an opinion. For the most part all I date are Latin women and I have an awesome understanding of them.
Dude, take control - by playing games? WTF.. be a man.... You are doing what she doesn't want you to do. Unfortunately that thinking doesn't work with Latinas so well. She most likely wants what every Latin woman idolizes in a man. They respond to dominance and "latin" passion.
You just posted how you feel. Here's a concept... print that off remove any reference to the dallas lair and fucking tell her that! Not 2 weeks from now, not 1 week from now, not 1 day from now. Tell her that FUCKING NOW. Fly over there and tell her your heart is beating so fast and that you can't think. That just to be without her for x days is impossible.
Latin women complain and it's a stigma that American men ( especially white guys ) are considered to be cold. They have this thing about passion. In fact they consider it to be manly.
To latin women -> SEX = LOVE. There's a multitude of reasons, but they are from a heavy ritualistic society that is centered around a guilt religion.. Catholicism. Many times that's how their parents got married. They fucked until a baby was made and thus a shotgun wedding.
Latin women are used to Latin the approach of Latin men. And while to us it seems like bullshit to them it's passion. They are one of the few women that consider you a pussy for not saying.. mi amor, te amo.. I want you to have my babies. I shit you not. Especially if they are traditional and that's 99% of the culture.
In fact in South America a latin guy in the first 5 minutes will walk up to a woman and say.. you are so beautiful, I want to take you home and have babies with you. I love you. In the first 5 fucking minutes.. it always sounded crazy to me... but, they like it and complain that we are too far the opposite.
So... I always play amor de primavera with Latinas. Lay it on thick and juicy romantic style. Tell her you were meant to know her, she's the one for you, you've never known why - but you felt it like it was from god, you've been crazy and stupid because you're so crazy for her and afraid to lose her. That you need her and all that shit.
Then for now on just share all the mushy feelings with her all the time. For some reason with Latinas it's a DHV and not a DLV.
*God* again, I'm cross posting a post on ABC's. I'm meaning to write an in depth thread about Latinas: [URL]http://www.abcsofattraction.com/community/newbie-board-beginners-hell-f49/latino-women-t4959.html[/URL]
PM me or hit my fb up: [URL]http://www.facebook.com/JohnnyMalibu[/URL]
I'll help as much as I can. Away from pick up I have several hundred friends from South and Central America.
DO NOT.. DO NOT act like a normal white guy at this point. I'm telling you it's the passion thing. It's a different way of thinking and relationships then we are used to.
At the end.. Tell her you want to have a policy of honesty.. that you always want to be honest. Even casually ask her 1 time if you are passionate enough.. I promise you will get an earful. Then lay it on thick bro. Now with that policy of honesty.... you set up a time to discuss the needs you both have and agree to have discussions 1 x for hour every 2 weeks or something. Just my 2 cents and a guess. Call me crazy if you want.
I'm not really sure how to describe the situation, so I'll just describe how we interacted throughout the relationship
1) 0-1.5 months: we were both very touchy feely and spent a lot of time together (4-5 days a week). We'd have sex a few times a day every time we saw each other. All the feelings were positive.
2) 1.5 months-2 months: I noticed that she was less attracted to me because I was being pretty needy. Sex dropped down to once a day, but it was still good sex (she would orgasm most of the time, and of course I did too). At one point, I made the mistake of making her feel like shit after sex, and we start fighting. She seems distant.
3) 2 months to current: We've been fighting a lot. We're both on edge and we take jabs at each other. When the other jokes, the other takes it seriously. It's very frustrating. She is no longer in the mood for sex. To combat the neediness that I held, I became more of an ass. When I am an ass, she responds better and wants to have sex. However, she still feels like I'm taking jabs at her when I become an ass. I'm in a catch 22, because I want to be emotionally supportive but I also want her to feel attracted again. I feel like I've dropped into the provider role. We both buy each other things and dinner, but she seems to value that I'm able to provide.
Throughout the whole time, we may have a 2-3 day break a week from each other.
We're now at the point of trying to save the relationship. We've decided last week to take a two week break, but still remain exclusive. I really do like her and want to keep the relationship alive. She makes me happy and has many of the qualities that I'm looking for.
Any advice on this? How can I run some damage control??[/QUOTE]
Ok... my opinion differs on this from playing any games. I'll put my balls on the line with an opinion. For the most part all I date are Latin women and I have an awesome understanding of them.
Dude, take control - by playing games? WTF.. be a man.... You are doing what she doesn't want you to do. Unfortunately that thinking doesn't work with Latinas so well. She most likely wants what every Latin woman idolizes in a man. They respond to dominance and "latin" passion.
You just posted how you feel. Here's a concept... print that off remove any reference to the dallas lair and fucking tell her that! Not 2 weeks from now, not 1 week from now, not 1 day from now. Tell her that FUCKING NOW. Fly over there and tell her your heart is beating so fast and that you can't think. That just to be without her for x days is impossible.
Latin women complain and it's a stigma that American men ( especially white guys ) are considered to be cold. They have this thing about passion. In fact they consider it to be manly.
To latin women -> SEX = LOVE. There's a multitude of reasons, but they are from a heavy ritualistic society that is centered around a guilt religion.. Catholicism. Many times that's how their parents got married. They fucked until a baby was made and thus a shotgun wedding.
Latin women are used to Latin the approach of Latin men. And while to us it seems like bullshit to them it's passion. They are one of the few women that consider you a pussy for not saying.. mi amor, te amo.. I want you to have my babies. I shit you not. Especially if they are traditional and that's 99% of the culture.
In fact in South America a latin guy in the first 5 minutes will walk up to a woman and say.. you are so beautiful, I want to take you home and have babies with you. I love you. In the first 5 fucking minutes.. it always sounded crazy to me... but, they like it and complain that we are too far the opposite.
So... I always play amor de primavera with Latinas. Lay it on thick and juicy romantic style. Tell her you were meant to know her, she's the one for you, you've never known why - but you felt it like it was from god, you've been crazy and stupid because you're so crazy for her and afraid to lose her. That you need her and all that shit.
Then for now on just share all the mushy feelings with her all the time. For some reason with Latinas it's a DHV and not a DLV.
*God* again, I'm cross posting a post on ABC's. I'm meaning to write an in depth thread about Latinas: [URL]http://www.abcsofattraction.com/community/newbie-board-beginners-hell-f49/latino-women-t4959.html[/URL]
PM me or hit my fb up: [URL]http://www.facebook.com/JohnnyMalibu[/URL]
I'll help as much as I can. Away from pick up I have several hundred friends from South and Central America.
DO NOT.. DO NOT act like a normal white guy at this point. I'm telling you it's the passion thing. It's a different way of thinking and relationships then we are used to.
At the end.. Tell her you want to have a policy of honesty.. that you always want to be honest. Even casually ask her 1 time if you are passionate enough.. I promise you will get an earful. Then lay it on thick bro. Now with that policy of honesty.... you set up a time to discuss the needs you both have and agree to have discussions 1 x for hour every 2 weeks or something. Just my 2 cents and a guess. Call me crazy if you want.
- Guest
by Guest » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:52 am
[QUOTE=bigdprince;37032]*God* again, I'm cross posting a post on ABC's. I'm meaning to write an in depth thread about Latinas: [URL]http://www.abcsofattraction.com/community/newbie-board-beginners-hell-f49/latino-women-t4959.html[/URL]
PM me or hit my fb up: [URL]http://www.facebook.com/JohnnyMalibu[/URL]
I'll help as much as I can. Away from pick up I have several hundred friends from South and Central America.[/QUOTE]
bigdprince:
I noticed that you keep cross-posting materials from other boards that you wrote. What's the point of doing so? If the posts you had originally written are so good why don't you just copy and paste them here (with the note that they were originally posted elsewhere)? Seems like you keep directing people to a different board which reeks of self-promotion, something that is all too common in the community at large, but highly frowned upon in THIS lair.
PM me or hit my fb up: [URL]http://www.facebook.com/JohnnyMalibu[/URL]
I'll help as much as I can. Away from pick up I have several hundred friends from South and Central America.[/QUOTE]
bigdprince:
I noticed that you keep cross-posting materials from other boards that you wrote. What's the point of doing so? If the posts you had originally written are so good why don't you just copy and paste them here (with the note that they were originally posted elsewhere)? Seems like you keep directing people to a different board which reeks of self-promotion, something that is all too common in the community at large, but highly frowned upon in THIS lair.
- Guest
by Guest » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:57 am
[QUOTE=Bull Run;37047]bigdprince:
I noticed that you keep cross-posting materials from other boards that you wrote. What's the point of doing so? If the posts you had originally written are so good why don't you just copy and paste them here (with the note that they were originally posted elsewhere)? Seems like you keep directing people to a different board which reeks of self-promotion, something that is all too common in the community at large, but highly frowned upon in THIS lair.[/QUOTE]
I'm just here to add value for myself and others. There are many other valuable sources of information in the community. I referenced a particular topic to a conversation that I've recently had. When I start a thread here or have an interaction that is mutually the same then I will cross reference just the same there or anywhere else for this board, so I ask you; how does that equal self promotion in your eyes? And what do I have to self promote? I simply called myself out on a personal need to write an in depth analysis on Latinas. It keeps coming up. Proliferating multiple copies of the same information will dilute it. From the stand point of being a curator that would be undesirable.
I noticed that you keep cross-posting materials from other boards that you wrote. What's the point of doing so? If the posts you had originally written are so good why don't you just copy and paste them here (with the note that they were originally posted elsewhere)? Seems like you keep directing people to a different board which reeks of self-promotion, something that is all too common in the community at large, but highly frowned upon in THIS lair.[/QUOTE]
I'm just here to add value for myself and others. There are many other valuable sources of information in the community. I referenced a particular topic to a conversation that I've recently had. When I start a thread here or have an interaction that is mutually the same then I will cross reference just the same there or anywhere else for this board, so I ask you; how does that equal self promotion in your eyes? And what do I have to self promote? I simply called myself out on a personal need to write an in depth analysis on Latinas. It keeps coming up. Proliferating multiple copies of the same information will dilute it. From the stand point of being a curator that would be undesirable.
- Guest
by Guest » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:22 am
Thanks for the advice everyone. I've been trying to deal with this for the last week. Unfortunately, the break did make it easier to break up. I'm upset about it but I did need the closure. Anyone have any advice on turning this into a fuck buddy situation?
@Bull Run and Rhody
Your post made a lot of sense. After examining my values, I realized that I was compromising it to try to stay with her. I felt like she lost the respect that she had for me. The funny thing is that she set boundaries early on, and I was too laid back to set any. She did it by stating clearly what she did and didn't accept. I didn't...
Speaking of which, how would I be able to convey values without explicitly stating them? I realize that if loyalty is one of my traits, I can do it by being loyal. However, she isn't guaranteed to see it...
@bigdprince
I agree with your post. Many of my latin friends complain of the same thing. I haven't been able to get comfortable with dominance. Any advice on that?
@Bull Run and Rhody
Your post made a lot of sense. After examining my values, I realized that I was compromising it to try to stay with her. I felt like she lost the respect that she had for me. The funny thing is that she set boundaries early on, and I was too laid back to set any. She did it by stating clearly what she did and didn't accept. I didn't...
Speaking of which, how would I be able to convey values without explicitly stating them? I realize that if loyalty is one of my traits, I can do it by being loyal. However, she isn't guaranteed to see it...
@bigdprince
I agree with your post. Many of my latin friends complain of the same thing. I haven't been able to get comfortable with dominance. Any advice on that?
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