weekend in field report (please critique)

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Postby Guest » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:03 pm

[COLOR=red]First of all can I just say that I am really starting to love reading your post. You have a great attitude bro and that will get you far in this. You are definately rekindling the fire I have for this[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=budgetballer;33829]Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving holiday weekend. I sure did and I will be hitting the gym hard because of it. :)

I had some good practice in my PUA journey this weekend but I still have so much to learn from you guys so I will try my best to summarize my experiences. I'm not sure where to post infield reports so I'll post here.

[B][U]Saturday night[/U][/B],

I attended a dance club that was pretty packed in Oklahoma City. I opened up my first set which was 2 hot asian girls surrounded by some guys with an opinion opener. It was kinda funny because the girl on the right gave me a dirty look and turned away from me while her friend pecked in to ask me to repeat (it was a loud and we were near the dance floor). I repeated again and she answered my opener, then i followed up with how do you guys know each other and she didn't respond to i ejected. LOL How do you guys handle LOUD MUSIC?

[COLOR=red]I agree that solace is our local authority on dance floor/club game. It's not everyone's cup-o-tea. Again I prefer to only do club game with a built in social circle and other girl-friends around. Some of my best pulls so far have been because I have had a pivot with me at a club. Loud music environments are not where you go to meet someone, so make friends really fast(dance with her a little) ask if they want to come meet your friends. It's hard for them to see you as anything except the guy who came by himself otherwise.[/COLOR]

My 2nd set, I opened a 2 set white gal HB7 and asian gal HB8.5 with an opinion opener. Again they asked me to repeat because it was loud, but they heard me clearly the 2nd time because we were near the bar area away from the speakers. The responded and then I went with "So are you guys like best friends?' And they both looked at each other and said "pretty much." So I go to introduce myself and they tell me their names. I look at the HB9 girl and say "you must be the good one" and i look at the other HB7 gal and say "and you must be the BAD one." Plus I also said "you and I would never get along" to the HB7 "because every Mandy that I've ever known was very domineering and outspoken" hahaha her friend backed me up by saying "omg! that is so true..a lot of people say that about her!" while HB7 was looking in shock lol..so i look to HB8.5 and say "see..we know what's up" and high-5 her. After that, I ran out of material lol so I gracefully ejected and said it was nice to meet them. To be honest, I didn't know who I was gaming..I guess HB7 since I was negging her. But then again, I also negged the HB8.5 by saying she was the good one since nobody wants to be the good one (aka boring). I could use some direction in how to better focus on my target. I felt like I was gaming all over the place. I also stopped because I still have not constructed my own DHV stories to transition into to bait the target(s) to give me IOIs. I should have some dhv stories finished in a few days and I can't wait to implement those into my game.

[COLOR=red]You were more money with this set then you actually know. First off DHV'ing is the easy part. Right after you made that cold read on her add another quick comment in there... "You remind me so much of this girl i dated for a while OMG! you're not a model too are you" If she says yes say "like what a hand model?" second if you are getting ioi's from one or both of them a quick compliance test... "Here, give me your hand" if she does spin her around and then position yourself against the bar so it looks like they are hanging around you not vice versa. If you run out stuff to say simply assert yourself telling them the group is going to do not asking them. "ladies let's make a trip to the bar" let them grab your arms and then move the set.[/COLOR]

My last set was DIRECT game because I saw a beautiful HB7.5 brunette drinking by the bar area. I walked up directly to her and told her that she was very cute and I had to come over to talk to her. She seemed surprised and asked me what my name was and I told her. I also followed up with "so what else do you have going on besides your looks?" and she replied back with "i dunno...i'm pretty busy with work so I don't have much time for anything else. I work two jobs in healthcare, etc." I replied back and asked her "...well do you cook at least?" She said "yes, i do." I rewarded her with "well..that's a start" Some push/pull here and there and some negs thrown in between. I eventually kino'ed her with high-fives and my hand on her back at times during the conversation. My body was to her side..wit both of us looking onto the dance floor...during the conversation. I proceeded to bounce her near the dance area with "hey, let's go make some friends!" and I held my arm out for her to grab it which she obliged....so i intro'ed her to my friends and she asked me for my age while we were out there. I said "well let's go outside and talk and i might tell you since it's quieter" she said after she finishes her drink..but by that time, the club was shutting down and lights came on. I proceeed to walk her to her car..walking hand in hand. I told her we should hang out soon and she said "okay, i will give you my number." I called it immediately and asked her to save it with a nickname of mine and she laughed. I then gave her a hug and ran a compliance test for her to kiss my right cheek and she obliged. I then asked her to kiss the other cheek and as she was going to, i tried to sneak a kiss onto her lips LOL but she pulled away...and she said " not so fast mr. smooth" i laughed and said "okay...next time. i will talk to you later." So i texted her an hour later which was like 2:30/2:45 am saying it was nice to meet her and we should hang out soon and that i will be dreaming about those biscuits and gravy that she mentioned she would make for me. she didn't reply and i figured she was probably asleep already. So today I call around 2:50pm. She didn't answer and didn't call back. I didn't even bother to leave a TEXT. I figured Game Over and somewhere along I didn't have TIGHT game. Maybe you guys can point out where I went wrong. She was older than me by 5 years and kept asking me for my age as if she was qualifying me. LOL maybe that was it. IDK.

[COLOR=red]I think you played your cards fairly well with this set. You seemed to estabolish comfort. The only thing i could say is that you might not have built enough attraction. If you had any amount of isolation with this girl you need to turn that comfort into attraction. It also wouldn't hurt things to root yourself into her future plans somewhere. For instance tell her about a party you are going to the next day or what bar you'll be hanging out at but don't invite her. and then later when text her remind her about it. Hey it's ... if you want to come with me to that party i told you about you can totally tag along. If you have something to offer they will almost never flake.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ff0000]I also agree that it never hurts to text something playfull and teasing first.[/COLOR]

[B][U]SUNDAY[/U][/B]

I went to the mall today and did my first legitimate daytime approach. And boy did I know how to pick 'em. I passed up every hot/cute girl that I walked by and mind you..perhaps it was approach anxiety because I was afraid of not knowing what to say(content) after my DIRECT appraoch..there weren't that many around 4:00pm. Anyhoo, I ended up seeing a HB9.5 (omg like a girl worth of being on the ENTOURAGE show)..she appeared to be a hot, classy, worldly MODEL gal. Anyways, she passed by me walking briskly so i turn back and catch up with her and she looked almost SCARED lol. I said "excuse me...i'm not usually this forward but i thought you were really cute and i had to come and talk to you or else i'd kick myself later." I was so happy because she appeared to be in awe when she said "oh wow...this never really happens to me in the day" so i just wing it and say "well my name is _____" and in turn she offered me her name. (btw, i was a little nervous this whole time and you could sorta detect it in my voice...not sure if she could or not..but maybe. But I got the impression she was seeing DHV from my approach judging from her response/body language) I follow up with "so are you doing a little xmas shopping today?" a nd she said "no..not really..i;m just really in to get some things at so and so store." I then say "oh nice..well I'm originally from okc but moved to dallas and i'm in town for the holidays to visit friends and fam" She then asked me about why I moved to dallas..how i like it there, blah blah.. (she's basically helping to continue the conversation) I then ask her if she is a student and she said "no..i've been out of school for a while now..why did you ask me that?" I said " well you look young enough to be in school...just a hunch" then she said "oh you must've gotten those from my sweatpants..these are like 5 years old but i love wearing them " and she made me look and i was like...WHOAH..she has a killer body, too..LOL..and then i say well i can't be staying long because I am supposed to meet some friends but i will be in town next week to celebrate my birthday and you should join us...why don't i take your number and we can continue this later" she hesitated and said "well do you have facebook?" I said "yes, but i wlil need your last name to add you" and so i pulled my phone out to get ready to type her name in a memo and she said "are you pulling facebook up right now?" i said "no silly, i'm gonna get your name because i got to get goin" and then said said "okay..here's my number..." i was like wow..i got the # haha..so I proceed to enter it and save her name and then i go to DIAL it with her there....I said "okay i'm gonna dial the number so you'll have mine and wn't think it's some weird telemarketer" she looked at her phone and said "is this you?" and i said "yes, save me as " ahhah she laughed at my nickname and asked me how i got the name. I told her and said okay i will talk to you later..have a good day. This was the best of my PUA experience this weekend. But I'm not at the point where I want to game it a little tighter on this one so that is why I haven't followed up with any text/phone yet. I'm actually gonna text but not sure how to move forward and keep it burning until I come into town next weekend. Any ideas from you experienced guys?

[COLOR=red]Diddo here. Play up the cocky funny aspect. Don't be needy and don't call her. Treat and text her messeges like she is one of your friends or your bratty little sister. This will get you out of the headspace that you are lucky to be talking to her. Something my friend taught me.[/COLOR]
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I really believe in this PUA journey guys and how I'm trying to improve and build the life I've always wanted. I've done it in other areas of my life and I'm so excited in this area of social jiujitsu and going out to get what you want and not settling for less. hehe *rant off*[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=red]Dude if you are in that stage where you are grinding out approaches and hitting it hard every day you def have the rigth attitude. You will learn something new everytime. Hit me up I'll send you my number and I will seriously wing you whenever. I love it dude, I was there not that long ago[/COLOR]
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Postby Guest » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:24 pm

I agree with Ram. You have a kickass attitude right now. Ahhhhh the good ole days.

The girl you gamed in the mall: She made a comment that she never hears that during the day. This makes me wonder what her occupation is. I am not saying she is a stripper but...if she isn't I would wager she works in the night club/bar/strip club industry. She hears the shit you said to her about 87 times a night. I am not saying what you did was wrong. I think it is awesome you went direct like that. Very few people have the balls to make that approach. No matter where this goes give yourself a pat on the back. Another reason I am mentioning her occupation is because I want you to tread lightly on your text with her. I know your goal is to get her out with you while you are up in town for your party. If she does indeed work at night this is going to be near impossible.

Ram gave you some good advice about treating her kinda like your bratty sister. I like that and think it is some good advice. Just make yourself different than the 87 guys who drool all over her every night. Imagine what they would text her and do the opposite.


As far as club game well I am deaf so I don't frequent those establishments. That is altogether another game and I will agree Solace is your man if you want to conquer it. He has some pretty tight ass club game.


You remind me of myself when I first got started in game. I was pretty ballsy and would open sets. I always feared where would I go with the conversation. See by nature I am a poor conversationalist. What I would do is each night before I would leave the house I would jot down 5-10 things I would talk about. I also had One thing memorized that was my fall back. So if I ran out of stuff to say I would always have that one fall back memorized and I would take that cheat sheet out. I would go take a piss and look at my cheat sheet. I eventually got a decent phone and just typed those things in my phone instead. On this cheat sheet it would just be a couple words. For example one might be "road trip". That would make me remember ohh ok ask her about the imaginary road trip we would take together and bam an awesome thread would start.


You had an awesome 2 set take place that you ran out of material. Don't beat yourself up about this. I have had that happen many times and it sucks balls. What you want to do in that situation is politely excuse yourself with the intention of re-opening them at a later point in time. Before you stumbled you had that set on LOCK.

Take the good from your interactions and remember them. Take the bad and figure out how the fuck to fix it so it doesn't happen again. That is how you actually get really good at this game. You go out a ton, meet a billion girls, and iron out your flaws.
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Postby Guest » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:01 am

I agree, I like your attitude. It is inspiring me to go out again and do cold approaches. Right now, my game is mainly through social circles and people I meet through them.

Keep it up! There is so much to learn from everyone!
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Postby Guest » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:24 am

Ram and Playercool,

I learn a little bit more every time you guys offer your feedback. Thanks for the support. But right now, I feel like i'm at the point where it's more of false confidence/"fake it til i make it"/ "sink or swim" mentality. I'm hoping through repetition and learning where I can improve, that the % will increase to real competence. I was reading one of Bull Run's old posts about PROS of sarging alone. It sounds pretty scary but maybe I will get the courage to do that later on.

Playercool- I, too, am not a great conversationalist naturally when it comes to strangers so I will try to do the planning ahead of time like you mentioned.

Ram - Thanks for the advice on some easy DHV tactics (that's really one of my sticking points--i figured i'd have to have DHV stories triggering off attraction switches. But your methods seem fun and good energy in that type of surrounding I was in.


And to add, it seems like I was just a # closer this weekend. Nothing panned out from my texts even if they were in the context of bratty little sister. I used Smirk's idea which I thought was brilliant but I know it had something to do with my game (i never lightly kino'ed, i never qualified her for something other than her looks, i didn't stay in set after the # close like a lot of DAYTIME gurus explain to do) *but i did get IOIs -maybe fake ones lol*
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*UPDATE*

Postby Guest » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:46 pm

SMIRKS is "the shit." Without the funny/teasing text idea from SMIRKS, i would have probably lost this one.... lol So HB from the mall (on my Sunday daytime approach) finally texted me back today with this today at 2pm:

"Hi Budgetballer, when is your party?"


She's obviously somewhat still interested but daaang...I texted her on Monday and she's just now replying. Should I keep it light and fun? Or just text her the details of my bday bash on Saturday?
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Postby Guest » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:04 pm

Here's what I'd do...time for a little trickery.

(Normally, you should mirror the time it takes a chick to respond...but when it's a fucking week's worth of time, exceptions can be made.)

Later on tonight, send her a text that looks like it is a mass-text.

"Ladies and Gentlemen...The Birthday celebration for yours truely will be at some random bar at some specific time on Saturday. Let the games begin!"

Then like an hour later send her another text, "Hey...dunno if I included you on the mass text earlier...we're going to this random bar at this specific time Saturday to get crazy for my Bday. Come meet up!"

This is something I do to show a slight bit of interest SPECIFICALLY in her attendance.
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