Is it good to let girls know you are PUA

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Two options:

joke it off (in case this fails, see option 2).
or
Frame it properly.

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I was also talking about your non-community guy friends (from sports, partying, work etc.) Some of them see all this as a manipulation tactic and will dog the shit out of you. Even when they see you pulling girls they treat it like you tricked them and you're not that good with women and that's why you need the "gimmicks"
I mean no guy is imune to this. I hate it when I ask friends to give it a chance and come sarge with us and they roll their eyes and say some shit like "you and the backstreet boys go have fun"
Really...

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[QUOTE=Ram;32970]I was also talking about your non-community guy friends (from sports, partying, work etc.) Some of them see all this as a manipulation tactic and will dog the shit out of you. Even when they see you pulling girls they treat it like you tricked them and you're not that good with women and that's why you need the "gimmicks"
I mean no guy is imune to this. I hate it when I ask friends to give it a chance and come sarge with us and they roll their eyes and say some shit like "you and the backstreet boys go have fun"
Really...[/QUOTE]


I've always been honest with my non-community friends about my involvement in the community. But, that has had its costs. I would be lying if I didn't say that I have lost some friendships because of my participation in the community. Some of my friends viewed it as a gimmick and every time I was out with them they would always push me to approach women...which, was annoying. They always looked down on me, to some degree, because of what I was doing. Even though I was constantly fucking a different girl and even though these women tended to get hotter and hotter and even though they routinely wanted me to tell them about my exploits (and share my intimate photos and videos), they still never fully believed in the power of the community. They always thought it was weird or off.

Initially I thought it was because they were jealous of my 'success' with women. Initially I believed I was enlightened and they were living in the dark ages. Now I just realize that the gap in our lifestyles had grown so much that we no longer had anything in common, besides having known each other for a long time. My success with women using tactics that they thought were wrong was off putting to them. I now understand how they felt/feel. I took everything that my friends and I thought was unfair about getting chicks and used it to my advantage. I became the very guy that we all hated and made fun of...in short, I turned my back on much of what made us such great friends. For what? Pussy.

Anyway, if I could do it again, I would have just isolated that part of my life from my non-community friends. There's no point risking the strain that it can cause if you don't need to. Just quietly, humbly bring your hotties around to meet them from time to time. When they ask how you pulled her, just smile and say "I got lucky."

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[QUOTE=Bull Run;32971]
Anyway, if I could do it again, I would have just isolated that part of my life from my non-community friends. There's no point risking the strain that it can cause if you don't need to. Just quietly, humbly bring your hotties around to meet them from time to time. When they ask how you pulled her, just smile and say "I got lucky."[/QUOTE]

As you can imagine I have kept my mouth shut to my non-community friends. Just like I would never tell a girl I feel the same way about telling my non community friends. Now if I had a friend who was just clueless on how to meet women then yes I would consider telling him and helping him. I would probably do so by just giving him a copy of the game and telling him it was a badass book he should read it. If he wants to take it further from there he can on his own accord.

Most of my outside friends are what I consider Naturals therefore there was no need to let them know. And unfortunately I fell like taking part in the community is frowned upon. With that thought process whether true or not I choose to keep my mouth shut. Like BR said I bring hotties around on occasion and they can just sit there and say DAMN you are nailing her? How did you meet her?

If I was ever asked I would just say no or change the subject some how. But why would they all the sudden ask?

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none of my non-community friends know im involved in the game.

they, and pretty much everyone not involved in the game, frown upon the idea of using "tactics" to get women. you are labeled as a loser, uncool and socially akward (which to some extent, may or may not be true).

unfortunately, PUA's have a bad name thanks to the books like The Game and the show The Pick-Up Artist on VH1. i think the public only only sees the superficial - the magic tricks, the canned lines, the outrageous outfits, etc.

they dont see the whole self-improvement aspect of it...and all the positives of it.

no matter how you frame it, PU has a negative connotation and thats the only side people see...

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I've never told any woman about it. Some have found out, or suspected. My current LTR found out very soon about it, however, I have never told her anything about it. I told a couple of my male friends about it when I first discovered the community. Since then I have kept my mouth shut. It simply isn't anyone's business but mine. I am not ashamed and would not deny it when asked, but I would not volunteer any information and it would be a very short conversation.

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I tend not to tell non-community friends about my involvement in the community. My involvement in the community has helped improve my social skills and I have made good "like-minded" friends. I however give pointers to non-community friends on pick up when they are clueless. I also discovered that alot of my non-community friends did not share the same passion as i had for beautiful women and the social life. This caused my social circle to change, i dropped friends who did not share my views and added those who did.

At work as a general rule i keep my personal life away from it all. I dont put my business out. Besides i work with married men and women who dont have much to offer interms of pick up (they settled for the first boy/girl they kissed in college)

In conclusion, I dont tell. If they ask, my response is that " I am a social guy and enjoy being around fun and exciting people"

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I can't remember ever reading a post form anyone that told a girl or a friend about the community ever leading to anything good. Usually it leads to nothing at all or you having to deal with a lot of drama that would have been avoid if you just kept it to yourself.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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Thats funny that you guys are talking about that because I just had a girl over to my house on a day2 on she "found" (snooped) some pickup materials I had been working with and got all freaked out and was like,
"Are you tricking me?" Which I responded quickly with
"Are you tricking me!??!" in a much more accusatory tone. Which sufficently confused her long enough to usher her out of my place and in to my car. I definitely think though that in Mystery's own advancement of himself that his show has severely damaged the perception of the commuity and inadvertently attaching a huge stigma. You gotta think that if that has been your only main stream exposure to the community that you as well would have a questionable perception of the community AND anybody who claims an assocation. P.S. I CRASHED and BURNED on that day2!!! And I cant help but wonder if when she found that stuff if that flipped a switch.

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[QUOTE=Lion;32981] Some have found out, or suspected. My current LTR found out very soon about it, however, I have never told her anything about it.[/QUOTE]

I'm curious. How did these people find out?