the annoying little shit in my college class

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ok, theres this annoying little jerk in my class. hes currently trying to compete with me for whos gonna be leader of our group and for both of my targets. he already holds higher value(says dumb shit and makes the girls laugh). one girl/target we will call tiny smiled at me the first day and she came up to me and my obstacle(the guy) when i was asking him a question. she faced me and then i looked over and she smiled and i smiled back. before i could open the situation...she started talking to my obstacle and asked him to wait for her, they left together. could he be her BF/FB/ or just a friend because he was also trying to go for my other target. by analyzing what he does im almost a 100% sure that hes no PUA. Right now im really not in a good spot with this kid because i lost my witt/quick witt(reason why i became a PUA)....its how i used to AMOG.

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alright maenad, im going to put this as delicately as i can....

from reading your post, it sounds like youre just a hater--hating on the guy that outgamed you and left with the girl.

the reason i got that message is because the posts you make are poorly constructed and if you continue to create threads like this, you will not get the answers you are looking for. we did not see the interaction go down, and your thread lacks many details that are required for us to analyze the interaction. there are many nuances in a real life situation that can affect a pick up.

additionally, it isnt really clear what you are asking. are you asking for tips on how to pick up classmates? how to amog? or improve your wit? you need to clearly define the advice you are seeking.

there are several guys on here with real life experience and knowledge that are more than willing to help you out, but unless you create better threads you will never get the help you want.

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[QUOTE=Prodigy;39805]alright maenad, im going to put this as delicately as i can....

from reading your post, it sounds like youre just a hater--hating on the guy that outgamed you and left with the girl.

the reason i got that message is because the posts you make are poorly constructed and if you continue to create threads like this, you will not get the answers you are looking for. we did not see the interaction go down, and your thread lacks many details that are required for us to analyze the interaction. there are many nuances in a real life situation that can affect a pick up.

additionally, it isnt really clear what you are asking. are you asking for tips on how to pick up classmates? how to amog? or improve your wit? you need to clearly define the advice you are seeking.

there are several guys on here with real life experience and knowledge that are more than willing to help you out, but unless you create better threads you will never get the help you want.[/QUOTE]

yeah. its not the best post i ever wrote but yes. im looking for ways to amog, get both of my targets, get my sense of humor back(what i had naturally and what i used to use to get girls). not meaning to sound boastful...but i took the myers briggs and i looked up who had my personality type and eddie murphy came up. i would literally sell everything i had to get my quick witt back because thats why people loved me. i know what i write has no grammar and is scatter brained. i confess i have a few learning disabilities. plus the guy did not out game me yet. :)


when the girl left with him they were not holding hands or being physical. hes what david D calls the goofy jackass. im not hating on him.... i know that at even being a beginner who started life at intermediate level(lost my charm a.k.a game due to several things, along with my social skills. found the community when i was at a low in life) that things will go my way. but im confident that eventually next class period or later on those girl will be eating out of the palm of my hand not his. if i was restored to my natural state i could beat him hands down....just right now hes the dancing chimp of my class but hes gonna become the jester in my court when i m done with this kid. plus both girls IOIed to me before he even opened his mouth the first day.

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do you all want specifics of what was said?

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Most likely they know each other. They probably went to high school together.

Have you considered making this kid your friend? I personally think AMOG's are jackasses and usually come off as super try hard. You really need to be careful here if those girls are friends with this guy. They might go back a long ways and if you start busting his balls in bad manners, you yourself, might end up with the short end of the stick.

Let me paint a picture for you. You are at the mall. You see a 3 set. It consists of 2 girls and 1 guy. You find both of the girls attractive and you would easily date either one. They are very friendly with the guy, in fact, you can tell he is either a brother or a great friend of the girls. With that being said, would you go up to the guy and start busting his balls, making it appear he is a big douche?

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[QUOTE=playercool;39809]Most likely they know each other. They probably went to high school together.

Have you considered making this kid your friend? I personally think AMOG's are jackasses and usually come off as super try hard. You really need to be careful here if those girls are friends with this guy. They might go back a long ways and if you start busting his balls in bad manners, you yourself, might end up with the short end of the stick.

Let me paint a picture for you. You are at the mall. You see a 3 set. It consists of 2 girls and 1 guy. You find both of the girls attractive and you would easily date either one. They are very friendly with the guy, in fact, you can tell he is either a brother or a great friend of the girls. With that being said, would you go up to the guy and start busting his balls, making it appear he is a big douche?[/QUOTE]

thanks you have a really good point there. i checked the email list for the class and cross reference the names of both of them on facebook and noticed one was from the colony and the other was from plano. im guessing he got her number before class and they started talking. she told him to wait for her. the other day she also left early which means she could have a BF/FB or some other thing she had to do. i was gonna use his Humor against him. i was gonna say "its, ok dude you don't have to constantly come up with jokes for people to like you! i know how thats like i used to be the class clown to....but then i realized that people would like me for me"

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Maenad,

The problem lies not with the other guy, the problem lies within you. You have a bad attitude. You're blaming some random guy for your problems and your posts are full of excuses. You have to take responsibility for your own actions if you wish to change.

Getting emotional about the situation will not do you any favors.

Think logically and rationally. Remain cool and calm.

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Lion's right man. You are your own problem.

More than that though, you're comparing yourself to other people. While it's healthy to use others as a yard stick for your abilities, value, etc. you shouldn't allow another person to impact your view of yourself. Don't view others as competition, view them as potential allies. Don't let some other guy rattle you and get you out of your head. Sit back, calm down, and just be yourself. But, also understand that it's very possible that your sense of humor may not be what these girls would consider funny (not everyone thinks Eddie Murphy is funny). I learned this lesson the hard way over the years. Throughout my life most people generally thought of me as funny, I'm sure several guys will agree that know me IRL, but my sense of humor may not fit with someone else's sense of humor. Humor is very often relative. Just because some people think you're funny doesn't mean everyone will think so.

If he's got the early 'in' with these girls, then befriend him and use that friendship as leverage to slowly game the girls. It's very possible that once he realizes that he's losing his grip on the these girls then he'll try extra hard to be funny and the class clown, etc. Let him be the one that comes off as try hard not the other way around.

Your whole "its, ok dude you don't have to constantly come up with jokes for people to like you! i know how thats like i used to be the class clown to....but then i realized that people would like me for me" line would come off as classless, douchey, try-hard, AND would subcommunicate that you feel intimidated by him.

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[QUOTE=Bull Run;39815]Lion's right man. You are your own problem.

More than that though, you're comparing yourself to other people. While it's healthy to use others as a yard stick for your abilities, value, etc. you shouldn't allow another person to impact your view of yourself. Don't view others as competition, view them as potential allies. Don't let some other guy rattle you and get you out of your head. Sit back, calm down, and just be yourself. But, also understand that it's very possible that your sense of humor may not be what these girls would consider funny (not everyone thinks Eddie Murphy is funny). I learned this lesson the hard way over the years. Throughout my life most people generally thought of me as funny, I'm sure several guys will agree that know me IRL, but my sense of humor may not fit with someone else's sense of humor. Humor is very often relative. Just because some people think you're funny doesn't mean everyone will think so.

If he's got the early 'in' with these girls, then befriend him and use that friendship as leverage to slowly game the girls. It's very possible that once he realizes that he's losing his grip on the these girls then he'll try extra hard to be funny and the class clown, etc. Let him be the one that comes off as try hard not the other way around.

Your whole "its, ok dude you don't have to constantly come up with jokes for people to like you! i know how thats like i used to be the class clown to....but then i realized that people would like me for me" line would come off as classless, douchey, try-hard, AND would subcommunicate that you feel intimidated by him.[/QUOTE]

if it said it with indifference, i would show that im not intimadated by this dude. as for humor BR, i used to make a majority of the people laugh a majority of the time.

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Wit / Humor:
I am one to believe that both of those are birth traits, either you’re funny or you’re not. Either you’re quick witted or you’re not. Can some of the traits be learned? Yes, but would have a minimal effect. You could possibly take some improv classes that will help you think on your feet. Other than that, I can’t offer you much advice here. I’m not that funny or am I quick witted.

You mention that you were funny and quick witted before, but due to some life events, that changed. What I suggest is that you take a few minutes (or hours) and think about how those life events changed you mentally—from funny to not funny. Hopefully, once you’ve understood why you changed or lost your wit, you can work on getting it back.

AMOG’ing:
There are hundreds of videos and techniques out there for AMOG’ing guys, many of which would be effective in this situation. Although, I agree with PC 100%; you should not be AMOG’ing this guy in this situation. From your post, it appears that these two are friends, or at the very least, acquaintances. If they weren’t, she would not have asked him to wait for her. As for the dynamics of their relationship, it is unknown. Just because they walked out does not mean they are BF/GF. On the flip side, it doesn’t mean that they’re just in the early stages of getting to know each other. Not enough information is known to come to a valid conclusion.

To expound on what PC said, since this girl is friends with this guy, she will quickly jump to his defenses when you attempt to AMOG. This is not good for you. You will look like the bad guy and be outcasted. Instead, you should be amicable, not necessarily friends, but friendly to both him and her. Once you understand the dynamics of their relationship, you can game accordingly.

Gaming College Girls:
Where do I begin? There are so many useful tactics out there that would work, but for the most part, I would game them just as any other girl (while adjusting my game appropriately since they’re a little younger and their minds may operate a slightly different). It is difficult to offer advice here since we have no insight as to what type of girls they are. Are they sorority chicks? Nerds? Indie scenesters? All of which will need a different approach and need to be gamed differently. But, the fundamentals still apply. Inner game: Aloofness, confidence and the non-pedestalization of women. Outergame: Neg, qualification, disqualification, DHV, and (sexual) escalation.