Is this needy? Should I still email her?

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So I haven't been gaming much as of late. I've been building my social life. I started doin this when a friend if mine from Oklahoma came down. He is a high in the food chain at his frat in ok and knows a lot of frat guys in tx. So I've beEn hanging around frat guys a lot and got introdced to hb8 blue eyes brunette.

Anyways, I've been flirting with her a lot and have hung out with her about 4 times. We have a lot of fun and I find her very cool. Last night my friends
and her had dinner and it was the first time i've built a lot of attraction in her. I kino'd to the point where I can touch her hair and not have her pull back. After dinner me and her hung around and flirted and were playful

but, at one point she was like "I better head back soon" and I kinda got nervous. I wanted to ask her for her # but I bailed. I asked her the first time I met her and she didn't give it to me. Maybe that's why I got nervous. Anyways I wantto hang out with her alone this week but I only have her email. Should I email her? If so, what should I say? If not, do I need o build attraction again?

Next time I see her will be at a block party this Friday

[Guest]

There's more to the story than you're probably aware of. How/why did she decline giving you her number the first time? How did you get her email? I think there are other areas you need to objectively look at before worrying about emailing...

[Guest]

Don't Email...

For starters it could go to her junk folder and she never gets it. Then you are just gonna worry.

Wait until the Block Party to see her again. It will build anticipation hopefully on both sides. She is telling her friends how she can't wait to see you there this Friday blah blah.

When you get her number don't wait until the end of the night. If you guys are bullshitting or whatever just ask for it in the middle of something. It will take a ton of weight off your shoulders and possibly hers.

Smirks makes a good point as well: What is happening in her life that she won't give her number out? It could have nothing to do with you and everything to do with her.

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[QUOTE=sooners123;33593]So I haven't been gaming much as of late. I've been building my social life. I started doin this when a friend if mine from Oklahoma came down. He is a high in the food chain at his frat in ok and knows a lot of frat guys in tx. So I've beEn hanging around frat guys a lot and got introdced to hb8 blue eyes brunette.

Anyways, I've been flirting with her a lot and have hung out with her about 4 times. We have a lot of fun and I find her very cool. Last night my friends
and her had dinner and it was the first time i've built a lot of attraction in her. I kino'd to the point where I can touch her hair and not have her pull back. After dinner me and her hung around and flirted and were playful

but, at one point she was like "I better head back soon" and I kinda got nervous. I wanted to ask her for her # but I bailed. I asked her the first time I met her and she didn't give it to me. Maybe that's why I got nervous. Anyways I wantto hang out with her alone this week but I only have her email. Should I email her? If so, what should I say? If not, do I need o build attraction again?

Next time I see her will be at a block party this Friday[/QUOTE]

Yes sir I detect a little needy behavior in what I just read. Ho business only works one way and thats when the ho's are working for you. YOU are currently working for her, and thats no bueno. You won't build the attraction you need to take this as far as you want.

Don't email her, she can get in touch with YOU.....and if she does you need to be more "illusive" so she'll start making moves to attract you. Let her build up all sorts of emotion in her little panties. Next thing you know she'll be telling all her girlfriends about you and they'll be feeding off this drama frenzy.

Building comfort and building attraction are good things to do, but don't get the two confused. One is not a substitute for the other. Building mental attraction is really what gets her panties off. Work on bringing out her emotions: Happy, sad, horny, don't be afraid to be a dick and tell her something she might not want to hear.

Tease Her......dangle that carrot out there and lead her down YOUR path.

Also, when you show up at this block party you need to have a plan.
You need to show you have social value in front of her. She'll be looking to see how you conduct yourself in a social setting. You also might think about a wingman who can help you out.

And don't worry about the silly phone number. She probably has some needy boyfriend who flips out when some dude starts texting his chic so she doesn't like to give it out. When you've created enough attraction, she'll gladly hand it over.

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I second that notion. You are comming off a little needy. First you need to focus on things that raise your value in front of her. This can be tough because of the immaturity of the whole greek scene. I mean she obviously hangs out with guys that are in your buddy's frat which you are not a member of. You need to show your value in other ways. This can also help you number close her. Hopefully you have or know of something going on that she would want to be a part of. Talk about it right in front of her and don't invite her. Wait for her say "I want to come" and simple remark "I don't even have your number." Then just confidently hand her your phone. Trust me she'll know what to do with it.

[Guest]

Thanks for your replies. Regarding the phone # the first time, she said that "she doesn't do that kind of stuff". Not quite sure what to gather from it, but it didn't seem like a blow off, but genuine if that makes sense

You guys are right about the slightly neediness. I've been on 3 day 2s in the past week and it's turned into ljbf. Hb8 is the hottest and most interesting so far...so I want to get her on an official day 2. Some of the ljbfs have gone into my social circle which is good, but I would rather fuck them

I like how you mentioned comfort and attraction. Ive been swinging back and forth between doing one or the other. Trying to find the median bu haven't found it yet

anyways, I'll take it easy and see her on friday then.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=sooners123;33600]Regarding the phone # the first time, she said that "she doesn't do that kind of stuff". [/QUOTE]

What kinda stuff, make new friends?

[Guest]

Not quite sure. I think I said something like "give me your number and I'll call you or text you next time". She seems to really hate texting so maybe she meant it that way.

[Guest]

Make it a point not to even consider asking for a number ever... instead just make vague references to doing something cool with her.

Ex. Yeah its freakin awesome we should do that sometime (looking away and not looking at her for a reaction) and for maximum effect, excuse yourself.

She'll ask for it eventually if she's interested. If it happens, it happens.

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[QUOTE=Finesse;33606]Make it a point not to even consider asking for a number ever... instead just make vague references to doing something cool with her.

Ex. Yeah its freakin awesome we should do that sometime (looking away and not looking at her for a reaction) and for maximum effect, excuse yourself.

She'll ask for it eventually if she's interested. If it happens, it happens.[/QUOTE]

That's like saying don't learn pick up. Just sit around and some hot girl will either approach you and say let's fuck or she wont. Hahhahaha

How often can I hear "I love how confident you are" "I love how you didn't ask me, you told me you were taking me out" "etc...etc" from girls to know that they like a guy who will take charge and not be a puss.

"Ummm so I was thinking you know ummm we should go out sometime. Can I have your number?" Hhahahahhahahahha Please don't ever say it that way.

"I am taking you out. *Pulls out phone* What is your number?"
100% number close ratio using that exact phrase and pulling my phone out while saying it. 100%

If you want to spice it up a little just as she begins giving you her number cut her off and say: "Annnnd Begin". It is funny and dickish...it works.


I think you need to take action on your next encounter with this girl. Otherwise you are going to end up LJBFing yourself. She is just gonna view you as some tag along puppy friend. Who the fuck wants that.

Get all the gay neediness outta your system too. I don't want to knock your confidence but I have a feeling you are going down in flames with this chick. You gotta check your current set up and change your style. This girl is a tough cookie. Prove me wrong!(I mean it with sincerity)