How do I avoid being "That Guy"

[Rigger]

So, I've found a target who is serious girlfriend material. But to my dismay she is taken. Although she hasn't mentioned it to me yet. I would just feel bad if I was the guy she cheated on her boyfriend with. Is there anyway to, maybe, get them to break up so I could move in. Again, I don't want to be labeled as "that guy" and ruin my rapport with any other future targets.

[MagicBalls]

Sounds like a waste of time unless you're just looking for a fuck.

[Rigger]

Hmm... alright, I guess I could focus my attention on something more attainable. For confidence reasons and etc.

[Bull Run]

Since we're on the subject, what are everyone's thoughts on being the other guy? In a purely sexual of course, not in trying to build LTR. Anyone have any experiences with this type of thing?

[Rainman]

honestly it isn't that hard, just find her hot button for her boyfriend. push it once, let her continue to push it herself for a day or two. then meet her out (alone) and emotionally state prime her, visualization exercises help. and close. need some good LMR game to handle those that are a little more committed than others. but don't think for a second that with the right situation a woman wont cheat. they are emotional creatures and if a guy can get her wrapped up in the moment she WILL follow her emotion and backward rationalize it later. clearly you can tell i have no qualms about being "that guy". sure morally i see the objection with doing it--but im not that other guy....im me, so realistically what do i care about him?

[Scoundrel]

What was it James Bond said? “With married women, things are less complecated.” Something like that.

[Check_Mate]

What was it James Bond said? “With married women, things are less complecated.” Something like that.

I love James Bond
WWJBD?

[Westfall]

So, I've found a target who is serious girlfriend material. But to my dismay she is taken. Although she hasn't mentioned it to me yet. I would just feel bad if I was the guy she cheated on her boyfriend with. Is there anyway to, maybe, get them to break up so I could move in. Again, I don't want to be labeled as "that guy" and ruin my rapport with any other future targets.

Which would create more harm? Which is the greater evil--getting her to cheat on her boyfriend, or breaking them up so you can fuck her---and not harm your reputation with other targets.

WF

[Bull Run]

honestly it isn't that hard, just find her hot button for her boyfriend. push it once, let her continue to push it herself for a day or two. then meet her out (alone) and emotionally state prime her, visualization exercises help. and close. need some good LMR game to handle those that are a little more committed than others. but don't think for a second that with the right situation a woman wont cheat. they are emotional creatures and if a guy can get her wrapped up in the moment she WILL follow her emotion and backward rationalize it later. clearly you can tell i have no qualms about being "that guy". sure morally i see the objection with doing it--but im not that other guy....im me, so realistically what do i care about him?

Agreed, a woman will cheat if the circumstances are right. I learned this very fact about 2 weeks ago. Anyway, I agree with everything you said. What responsibility do any of us have for the 'promises' a woman keeps to others? That's not my bag, so I'm not going to worry about it.

[Elation]

I agree that unless you have had your fair share of fucking tons of chicks and are seriously ready to settle down (AKA fall in love) and have decided based off of your extensive experience with dating that this chick quite possibly has the potential to be your future wife... that you not try to land a girlfriend.

1) cuz unless you know what you are doing, trying to land a girlfriend will usually scare them off. If you want that potential, then take longer to court and date her. I don't think that is very likely to happen if she has a boyfriend and besides you don't want a relationship with a girl that's a cheater.

2) because you are more than likely simply having an emotional reaction to her because she seems so unattainable yet so into you. This is attraction and it's emotionally based. It's not a bad thing, just recognize that you can develop attraction for many other beautiful women and choose based off of qualities you would really cherish in a relationship.

Specifically to answer your question though (since you asked,) find out what she is missing in her current relationship. Give her what she can't get from him. If he sux in bed then your set. Maybe she needs excitement and he's too boring. Maybe he doesn't appreciate her enough. Maybe his ego is too big and annoys her. Maybe he kisses her ass and she wants a challenge. Deduce from her what it is she is missing (key point is stealth here, don't be obvious. just try to sense it from how she interacts with you and others) Find out what causes her to come out with you in the first place and play that card for all it's worth.

Then, be very good in bed. If you can satisfy her more than her BF than she will spend more time during the day thinking about you than him. Continue from that point to develop deep emotional rapport with her and be the perfect boyfriend. Maintain an element of romance but keep her on her toes and let her chase you a little. Reward her good behavior, ignore her bad and ignore her when she's being bad. Keep that up for a couple months, spending more and more time with her. Start dropping words around that sound like relationship type speak. Use future adventure projection to describe the two of you way in the future. Let her see the weaknesses in her relationship and how you are so much better than the other guy.

Eventually do either one of two things: One) wait long enough and she'll make the choice and dump him for you or 2) wait just until she's obsessed with you and tell her that your developing feeling for her and that you can't see her anymore until she chooses you as her one and only. And then cut her off hard until she dumps her BF or never speaks to you again.

But having a girlfriend isn't all it's cracked up to be. The only reason I would say that it is worth it over fucking tons of increasingly hot chicks is if you can actually experience love with her and choose her to be so much better than any other girls you meet.