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Postby TheScientist » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:30 pm

This isn't field tested, but chicks use it if they don't sense you're qualifying.

They'll make you demonstrate qualification with "Why do you like me?"
I don't like the idea of using that question as it can turn on a lot of logical processes, but I like the embedded assumption "... you like me." I want a way to do this that conveys "a lot of women are attracted to me, but qualify yourself as someone with good reasons and demonstrate you're not flippant about this."

Most are fairly flippant in the moment, but they love the opportunity to give another impression. She says: "I never do this." I think: "Haha. That's what you'll tell my buddies too, when they each end up fucking you over the course of a few months."

I got the idea in a two set yesterday after I had DHVd, qualified, and kissed. It was hot and we set a D2. She left and called me and said she was disappointed that she HAD to be somewhere early in the morning, because it was fun. After that I thought - I've seen this before where the next day she's saying "Why did I give you my phone number? Oh right, Your the guy in the bar who asked. Maybe I'll run into you out again ... it was fun." I thought of a couple of ways to remind her of that moment instead of a moment when she's getting ready for her work week. Then I thought the best thing would be to just offer her an opportunity to recall it for herself.

My thought right now is to make this into a little game around whatever type of close you're targeting or to affirm you're status at a close recently attained. Questions like this ...

#. "Name one characteristic a guy has to have for you to give him your phone number (and don't say 'handsome')." If you don't have the number yet and she reaches for the phone when you say that then it's just going to be weird if you delay getting the number much.

K. "Name one characteristic you always recognize in a guy before you'll kiss him."


DISCLAIMER: This isn't field tested material. I'll update you on the experiment, but don't blame me if your results with this suck. I'm going to use it for the first time today.
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Postby Rhody » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:44 pm

The question "why do you like me?" works for women with AFC guys. AFCs will answer with, "because you're pretty and smart blah blah blah." A PUA will answer with something like, "but I hate you" or "I don't know, you hijacked my brain," depending on what stage he's in.

The problem I see with reverse qualification is you're setting up an expectation for yourself. You're also establishing a frame that she has requirements and you're fitting into her requirements. It gives her power she doesn't necessarily need.

I see some attraction/raport material in this. "Why do you like me? I'm tired of women chasing me because I'm rich and have a great sense of humor. I need a woman who wants me for my body."

A friend of mine told me of a way to number close that I never posted because I haven't field tested it myself. When he gets her number, he calls it. When the voice mail picks up, he hands her the phone. Then he tells her what to say to her own voice mail.
PUA: Say, "hi, this is [HB]. I called to tell you that I met this great guy. He's handsome and funny. I can't wait to see him again. Oh, and don't forget to buy fresh batteries. Bye."
If she's a good sport, and he's gotten her to jump through big enough hoops, she'll repeat everything he says. If she's even more fun, she'll replace some of what he says with something like, "he's such a dork, but he's cute." The great thing about it is when she gets home, she remembers the interaction, and she hears all about it IN HER OWN VOICE.

Is this sort of along the same lines you were thinking?
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good material

Postby TheScientist » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:08 pm

Perfect. Reminders and statements of the value is exactly what I'm looking for and I like the lines.

I've run that phone message technique a couple of times (really badly). The recent ones I just had call me on the spot.

I'm thinking this will setup the reminders to start with on the phone as I'm struggling with that.
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Postby Elation » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:07 pm

do NOT under any circumstances EVER ask a girl why she likes you. All girls like you (you assume this to be true) You KNOW why your attractive, ofcorse she likes you.

If you ask her that question I 100% hands down garuntee YOU WILL NOT GET LAID!

Only exception to this is when you've demonstrated so much higher value than her that she is about to walk away from you because she knows she never has a chance in the world except for you to fuck her and then never speak to her again.

If a girl asks why you like her it means you didn't do your job qualifying her.
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Postby TheRussian » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:09 pm

strapper wrote:do NOT under any circumstances EVER ask a girl why she likes you. All girls like you (you assume this to be true) You KNOW why your attractive, ofcorse she likes you.

If you ask her that question I 100% hands down garuntee YOU WILL NOT GET LAID!

Only exception to this is when you've demonstrated so much higher value than her that she is about to walk away from you because she knows she never has a chance in the world except for you to fuck her and then never speak to her again.

If a girl asks why you like her it means you didn't do your job qualifying her.


This is interesting. Can you go into more information about qualifying? What are some good ways to qualify? Sometimes my girlfriend will ask me "Do you like me??", and when I say "Yah", she will ask me again and again, until I tell her to stop asking the same question. What is the reason for this? Why is she trying to get me to qualify? I think its that she is afraid that I will leave her for another girl. She keeps telling me "I don't feel like I deserve you" and "you can find someone better"... This is just odd...

Edit:

I just talked to my girlfriend about it and her explanation is that she likes to hear why I like her so that she can concentrate on those things and make sure that I always like her.. So for example she said if I compliment on her food, then she will try harder to make even better food..

hmmmmmmmmmm....
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Postby NobodyUKnow » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:54 pm

IMO this is simply a hoop. Make her jump through one of equal or greater size and then respond why you like her. If she makes you laugh somehow in response to jumping thru your hoop, tell her "see... you're funny" or if she gets philosophical, tell her "see... you're deep."
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Postby Hoovy » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:29 am

Whenever I've had girls ask me, why do I like them, after a good amount of time with them, its because I've been making things too easy for them. Genuine compliments, hand holding, and kissing, but just came too easy. I didn't make them earn much.
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Postby TheScientist » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:46 am

As it turned out with the girl who inspired this thought, she was naming way too many reasons she liked me without me ever baiting that hook. I can't think of a damn thing I did in the interaction to get that, because it would have been overkill with the IOIs she was giving me. I'm now more inclined to cut loose with a fart during pillow talk and see what she likes about that.
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Postby Thaddeus » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:16 am

---she wants you to qualify her---
When the girl asks me about why I like her, and lets face it this is going to happen I'll simply give a back handed complement that she cant gain much out of but feels ginuine. As in well I'm not sure, the way you fidget when were togethers kind of cute. The girl will instantly begin to fidget and your place is to glaze this over. I like to be the guy that she feels will point out the faults then move past them. Basically your opening up LMR doors from the very beggining. Yes this is a little nicer than a lot of people would be and it requires more time but can yeild a greater return.

---she over qualifies you---
One thing I've noticed over the years about girls that qualify you is that it brings them a small sense of self worth. They use all of the positives they see in you to justify why they are there and why this is improving her state. A pretty prime example of girls setting this up in there minds would be all of those women you've seen though out life with the abbusive boyfriend or husband but she stays because he's really a sweet guy and he will chang. We all see from the outside that she's crazy but then again were talking about women here. Emotional living beings not logical objects...

just my late night ramble thoughts....
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