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[QUOTE=Bull Run;40665][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Maenad you've asked me and several other members on here for advice for various different things. You make posts like the one you did here and you send out PMs. I know that you're getting feedback AND you're getting feedback from guys that KNOW what we're doing because we've been doing it for so long.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Sure, we all have different outlooks, perspectives, and styles but we all know what works for us and we actively use those skills.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]T[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]he funny thing is that all of us generally employ the same basic skills set. Indifference, projecting value (value can be described in so many different ways), cocky/funny, etc., etc. You're getting amazing feedback yet you don't want to accept this feedback. This is one of your problems, you're not listening.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]PC, Prodigy, and I all said learn to crawl before you walk. Start with 5s and 6s then work your way up as you hone and tighten your Game. Yet, you refuse to do so. That's fine, I suppose, but it's the same pattern.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]You ask, "hey guys how do you do xyz?" Then, we say "you do this, that, and so forth." Then you respond with, "yeah, but I don't need/want to because I used to have Game and then I lost Game." You're not willing to change and let go of the past.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]The reality is that if it’s taking you several dates/weeks to bed a sub 7 then you’ve got a lot of Game you need to work on tightening up. And, since you don’t give two shits about these girls they’ll be the best ones to practice with. It’ll help you get comfortable with the indifference dynamic, the mentality of being able to walk away, and the idea that you’re more important than them. You need those weapons to slay the hotties.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Further, you need to understand, and someday, for your sake, I hope you will that having 'Game' in high school means absolutely nothing. There is no such thing as 'Game' in high school. The girls went after the guys with the nicest clothes, the coolest cars, the bad attitude, or the most physically gifted. I was NONE of those things in high school and I rarely had girls interested in me, rarely. Same with most of my group of friends, save for one that drove a brand new GT Mustang. Yeah, he had a girlfriend that specifically said that she dated him only because he had a hot car (they ended up getting married, he's miserable today, so as I was jealous of him oh so long ago, he's now jealous of me today…full circle).[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Game evolves as you grow. What works in high school does not work in college, what worked in college doesn’t work in your 20’s, what worked in your 20’s doesn’t work as well in your 30’s, etc., etc., etc. Of all types of Game, high school is absolutely the most superficial. If you’ve ever seen the movie The Breakfast Club you’ll understand what I’m talking about. High school values are just skewed and immature.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]In the movie, there are five kids that have to spend a Saturday together in detention. There's the rich girl, the criminal/bad boy, the basket case, the jock, and the brain. The rich girl has value because her parents have money, she wears nice clothes, and she’s moderately attractive (I never thought she was all that hot). The bad boy has value because he’s got the confidence to dress differently, act out, and fight back against authority. The jock has value because of his physical prowess. The basket case had no value, until the rich girl gave her a make-over, making her hot (for the 80’s that is). Look at the values on that list:[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]-Money[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]-Beauty[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]-Physical prowess[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]-Confidence[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]The last character, the brain, was the smart guy. The responsible guy. The nerd. He voted, did his homework, was a member of academic clubs, and was generally socially awkward. “A parent’s wet dream.” In high school, this guy has no value. None. And, it shows in the movie.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]By the end of the film, the jock and the, now beautiful, basket case end up together. The rich girl and the criminal/bad boy end up together. And, the brain, ends up writing a very nice letter to the teacher watching them while they spent a Saturday in detention discovering who they were. One could argue that these dynamics never really change, and I agree (kind of). But, with a little bit of Game and work, the brain could be able to pull pussy just as easily as the criminal and the jock. In the long run, I’d put my money on the brain. Because, in the end, the smart guy wins. We see that time and time again. If he learns to mimic behavior of the criminal/bad boy with respect to women then the guy will be unstoppable. Seriously.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]The brain goes home alone in high school, he has no women, and so he works to improve his value. The criminal/bad boy and the jock got pussy in high school so they never think that they need to change as they grow up. They will stay the same. And, as time goes on, their physical prowess with fade and being a bad boy will no longer be endearing. Eventually, they’ll wonder why they aren’t pulling pussy like they did back in the day. I saw this dynamic first hand at my 10 year high school reunion.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]As for the days when you were witty and funny, well, no offense but I would contend that that was a byproduct of having one form of the superficial high school value traits that I outlined earlier (money, looks, physical prowess, confidence). If you go by what a lot of the guys on this board that know me in real life say about me I’m a pretty witty and funny guy. Always have been really. It’s just been something I’ve had my whole life. In high school, no one laughed. No one cared. I didn’t have any of the value traits that are so important in high school so I was ignored. Instead, the jock with the brand new Camaro that sat next to me in class was the funny and witty one. When a girl likes you, she thinks you’re witty and funny, even if you are not…especially in high school.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]You’re living in a new world now. I’m glad you were able to pull hotties back in high school but that doesn’t appear to be working now. I suggest you let go of the past and listen to what we’re telling you.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]This Community has seen guys like you come and go because they would ask for advice, we’d give it, then they wouldn’t follow it. Over time, their posts became more and more poisonous and filled with rage and frustration from their constant inability to actually pull girls. What they wanted was the results but they didn’t want to put in the work. They wanted the WORLD to change and bend to their will not the other way around.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]I can assure you that they’re still sitting around being frustrated and lonely, growing more angry by the day all because they weren’t willing to change.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]We can give you advice but only you can help yourself.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]The choice is yours…[/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]

My anger comes from many places(manly from others screwing me over my whole life). Did I ever tell you all what it was like when I read the game. When I first read it, I noticed that it was insanely similar to my approach. Back in High school I was witty, charming and clever everyone liked me and always asked me to hang out because of my personality. I guess your right with the looks thing. Girls used to say I was one of the hottest guys in School and in my grade I was rated as the second most wanted to date by the girls(i know this because i went to a small school and overheard the girls comparing the guys). As far How good I was I almost stole a girl from her boyfriend who drove a Aston martin, she always wanted to hang out with me but I was angry as fuck because she lied to me.She the reason I became a PUA and If i ever see her again, I plan on fucking the shit out of her and the girl who ruined my life and got me kicked out of college.

Honestly Back in high school I was hitting DHVs and I did not even know it. I was literally the AMOG of my high school. I read the game so I could better understand myself, my whole life women were very reactive to me.

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[QUOTE=UncleHOwie;40666]Maenad- let me tell you something.......you will fail more times than not when you make "sex" your ultimate goal. These girls have super radar for that and will make sure it doesn't happen. The one who cares the least is awarded with the most power! So quit caring and let it fall into your lap. If you're as good as you think you are.........it will happen.

The best thing you can do to make your self successful is to: Be yourself, quit being outcome dependent, forget all these silly pua tricks, and do your thing. Talk to girls because you want to know them as a person...not a sex object and watch their defense mechanisms vanish.

I've never been one to mess with ugly girls either for the same reasons you've said. However when I began this journey there were definitely a few 6's-7's. As I sharpened my skills & increased my value I got better and better women and put up with less bs. I achieved the results I wanted because I put in the leg work to build the foundation these guys speak of. Sometimes you gotta take a few steps back to go forward. :D Check your past and your ego at the door because if what you did in your past isn't working then you need to make some changes.

You'll notice that the most successful men in business built a solid foundation. It works the same with women. Life is pretty much a series of building blocks. I see some cracks in your foundation.

I challenge you to start posting some field reports and we can give you some pointers to make yourself more successful.[/QUOTE]

I like this plan, I Promise ill be out more because i just changed my schedule for college classes.

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[QUOTE=maenad;40673]My anger comes from many places(manly from others screwing me over my whole life). Did I ever tell you all what it was like when I read the game. When I first read it, I noticed that it was insanely similar to my approach. Back in High school I was witty, charming and clever everyone liked me and always asked me to hang out because of my personality. I guess your right with the looks thing. Girls used to say I was one of the hottest guys in School and in my grade I was rated as the second most wanted to date by the girls(i know this because i went to a small school and overheard the girls comparing the guys). As far How good I was I almost stole a girl from her boyfriend who drove a Aston martin, she always wanted to hang out with me but I was angry as fuck because she lied to me.She the reason I became a PUA and If i ever see her again, I plan on fucking the shit out of her and the girl who ruined my life and got me kicked out of college.

Honestly Back in high school I was hitting DHVs and I did not even know it. I was literally the AMOG of my high school. I read the game so I could better understand myself, my whole life women were very reactive to me.[/QUOTE]


You don't get it man. You just don't get it...

You better open your eyes or this will be your anthem:

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iEId2vmb0M[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Bull Run;40675]You don't get it man. You just don't get it...

You better open your eyes or this will be your anthem:

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iEId2vmb0M[/URL][/QUOTE]



Tell me where to start on the road to being content with life and ill start doing it. I refuse to give up and FYI im one of those people who when in life they want something bad they are willing to work for it. If I have to approach a 100 girls in a week to fuck 1 or 2 per week, ill make that my mission.

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[QUOTE=maenad;40673]My anger comes from many places(manly from others screwing me over my whole life). Did I ever tell you all what it was like when I read the game. When I first read it, I noticed that it was insanely similar to my approach. Back in High school I was witty, charming and clever everyone liked me and always asked me to hang out because of my personality. I guess your right with the looks thing. Girls used to say I was one of the hottest guys in School and in my grade I was rated as the second most wanted to date by the girls(i know this because i went to a small school and overheard the girls comparing the guys). As far How good I was I almost stole a girl from her boyfriend who drove a Aston martin, she always wanted to hang out with me but I was angry as fuck because she lied to me.She the reason I became a PUA and If i ever see her again, I plan on fucking the shit out of her and the girl who ruined my life and got me kicked out of college.

Honestly Back in high school I was hitting DHVs and I did not even know it. I was literally the AMOG of my high school. I read the game so I could better understand myself, my whole life women were very reactive to me.[/QUOTE]

you obviously didnt get BR's message.

we dont care about what you were like in hs, or what success you had. you clearly arent happy the quality or quantity of women you are getting now, thats why you're here. if you were happy, you would just continue to be you and get pussy.

forget your past, let it go. let me repeat that. forget your past, let it go. what value you had in hs more than likely doesnt trigger the same response now that you're in real life; where guys like you(and higher value guys) are a dime a dozen...

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[QUOTE=Prodigy;40680]you obviously didnt get BR's message.

we dont care about what you were like in hs, or what success you had. you clearly arent happy the quality or quantity of women you are getting now, thats why you're here. if you were happy, you would just continue to be you and get pussy.

forget your past, let it go. let me repeat that. forget your past, let it go. what value you had in hs more than likely doesnt trigger the same response now that you're in real life; where guys like you(and higher value guys) are a dime a dozen...[/QUOTE]

now i get it, my value and what matters to me no longer matters to others. Am I right? Highschool is different than the real world and things change except i'm living vicariously through my experiences, its all I was left with after being debilitated by depression(which warps the way you think and mentally slows you down=lose of quick wit). Your right I'm here because I'm not getting the quality that i used to and when I don't meet my own standards I piss my self off. I think the problem with why i focus on the past has to do with I look to it for experience. I'm going to try my best to stop doing that.

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[QUOTE=maenad;40681]now i get it, my value and what matters to me no longer matters to others. Am I right? Highschool is different than the real world and things change except i'm living vicariously through my experiences, its all I was left with after being debilitated by depression(which warps the way you think and mentally slows you down=lose of quick wit). Your right I'm here because I'm not getting the quality that i used to and when I don't meet my own standards I piss my self off. I think the problem with why i focus on the past has to do with I look to it for experience. I'm going to try my best to stop doing that.[/QUOTE]

"If you're depressed, you're living in the past. If you're anxious, you're living in the future. If you're at peace, you're living in the present." --lao tzu

you're primary focus should be living in the now and enjoying life. It's perfectly fine to relive the memories of the past (for nostalgia and enjoyment) and to use those experiences to make your game better (what worked and why). But, do understand that how you got women in high school doesn't necessarily work quite as well as it does now.

For example, if you drove a cool sportscar in hs, you prob had girls chasing you. Now, the majority of women don't care about what you drive as long as it's decent (except for girls who are superficial and status seeking gold diggers, like the typical Dallas club rat). I know of a guy who let girls drive his Ferrari and guess what? His target ended up dating my friend for 8 months.

I'm not going to be ignorant and naive. Money, fast cars and material things does get you pussy and can help your game, but it's not necessary. There are alot of rich guys who turn to pickup to get girls...

Your first step is to work on things that will make you a higher value man in general. Get a college degree, pick up new hobbies, surround yourself with good friends, Get a life mission and own it, etc.

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[QUOTE=Prodigy;40683]"If you're depressed, you're living in the past. If you're anxious, you're living in the future. If you're at peace, you're living in the present." --lao tzu

you're primary focus should be living in the now and enjoying life. It's perfectly fine to relive the memories of the past (for nostalgia and enjoyment) and to use those experiences to make your game better (what worked and why). But, do understand that how you got women in high school doesn't necessarily work quite as well as it does now.

For example, if you drove a cool sportscar in hs, you prob had girls chasing you. Now, the majority of women don't care about what you drive as long as it's decent (except for girls who are superficial and status seeking gold diggers, like the typical Dallas club rat). I know of a guy who let girls drive his Ferrari and guess what? His target ended up dating my friend for 8 months.

I'm not going to be ignorant and naive. Money, fast cars and material things does get you pussy and can help your game, but it's not necessary. There are alot of rich guys who turn to pickup to get girls...

Your first step is to work on things that will make you a higher value man in general. Get a college degree, pick up new hobbies, surround yourself with good friends, Get a life mission and own it, etc.[/QUOTE]


Ah-fucking-men!!!

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tell me where the post is about becoming a man of value and ill read it.

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It's in the Best Of forum...