Political/religious discussions and Pick-up

[TheRussian]

Deep conversations is what I have done in the past few successful pickups. Rhody, you are very much correct on college aged girls. Not only do they enjoy to use their mind for a change because most guys of college age do not have the ability to create non-hostile discussion environments, but it is also the fact that most girls are looking for intelligent guys to spend time with, and being able to portray that will create a large DHV. I usually like to discuss subjects such as human psychology of attraction, ideal and perfect relationships, as well as all around life advice on being positive and seeing obstacles as learning tools. This sort of “deep” conversation in the comfort building stage creates, in my opinion, a huge DHV. If a woman can see that you are a person who understands the fine points of human interaction, she will associate that with long term success and integrity.

However, I do find that some guys, specifically some of my friends who I have had a chance to observe around women, think that beating a woman out in an argument will set you as the undisputed heavyweight alpha. I think that in many instances a woman is trying to push your buttons by disagreeing to see if you will get on the defensive or offensive and start trying to subdue her. I was guilty of that crime in the past.

There is no reason to have a logical show-down as one of you has said in earlier posts. The aim of every conversation is to convey emotions, as that is what women understand best. There is a way to convey emotions through a philosophical and even political discussion by creating the feeling that the subject is being mutually explored even though the opinions differ. It is an effective rapport building technique because you are both invested into understanding and exploring instead of trying to win a court case.

[Scoundrel]

What I'm saying is if you give her an opinion you shouldn't back off it if she disagrees. If she wants to argue, refuse to do it. Hold your ground, but don't go Jerry Springer. If she does, calmly say "wow, I don't think I like this part of you."

[Rhody]

What I'm saying is if you give her an opinion you shouldn't back off it if she disagrees. If she wants to argue, refuse to do it. Hold your ground, but don't go Jerry Springer. If she does, calmly say "wow, I don't think I like this part of you."

I would say, "wow, you get very passionate about stuff... and junk. It's great to meet a girl I can talk to about junk and stuff and... whatever." ($1 royalty to Fry and Amy on Futurama) Then I'd change the subject.

But if you lead the conversation and create an open forum where you're trying to understand each other, then that shouldn't happen. If it does happen, then maybe you made a mistake in the conversation or maybe she's just a cantankerous bitch.

There are some people, men and women alike, who need to feel friction. I dated a girl who would get a smirk on her face after a couple glasses of wine, and I just knew it was time to throw down. If I tried to avoid an argument or took her side, she would psychoanalyze me, saying I'm afraid to feel emotion or something like that. To her, confrontation was the only way to interact with people. The friction made her feel alive. She has neglect and abandonment issues. I'm still friends with her, but I had to end our intimate relationship. So you have to be careful getting into deep issues with women. You might end up with someone who gets addicted to the friction and you'll find that spending time with her just isn't fun any more.