I think I figured something out about my game

[Guest]

Hey fellas, I gotta say the results I'm getting are unreal. I've been divorced for three years now, and the entire time I've been dicking around with 6's and 7's, primarily.

Now, I am violating just about every rule in the book, no cocky, no funny, no pretending to have the rock star social life...just sincere and "honest" and now I am dealing only with 9's, seriously beautiful women. I am so fucking glad I finally figured this out.

In a nutshell, I think the "rules of the game" are good for most guys because most guys have to generate attraction where none exists. If attraction is already there, I think playing games and following the "rules" as we've learned them, is counter-productive.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Alphagame;35901]I've been divorced for three years now, and the entire time I've been dicking around with 6's and 7's, primarily.

and now I am dealing only with 9's, seriously beautiful women. I am so fucking glad I finally figured this out.

In a nutshell, I think the "rules of the game" are good for most guys because most guys have to generate attraction where none exists. If attraction is already there, I think playing games and following the "rules" as we've learned them, is counter-productive.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Bull Run;35666]So, Alpha, you have the important switch. You get treated differently. You're ahead of the game. I honestly believe that your problem is that you're going after women that are not nearly as attractive as you. In which case, you can't have an overbearing personality because the girl is already intimidated by you. Quit playing with the 6s and start Gaming some 9s. Being attractive, cocky, funny, and an asshole (at times) will get you so far with a beautiful woman.[/QUOTE]



Hmmm??? Told ya' so :)

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Bull Run;35903]Hmmm??? Told ya' so :)[/QUOTE]


Consider myself served! Being a nice guy has never worked for me and I've had to prioritize what to work on way differently. Or maybe I just found out I'm ugly... Ouch. Either way glad you're having success.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Ram;35907]Consider myself served! Being a nice guy has never worked for me and I've had to prioritize what to work on way differently. Or maybe I just found out I'm ugly... Ouch. Either way glad you're having success.[/QUOTE]

Man, you're ugly too?! I thought it was just me ;p

[Guest]

Haha.. yeah... if you're a good looking dude and you are being very indirect it seems to really backfire. I think the persona isn't congruent with what women expect. It actually lowers your value.

Now, I think indirect has it's place to help pump up or shall I say over come ones passive value. But, understanding where you are with a woman and being able to make a mental note of it is HUGE.

If your passive value is high... then I'd argue that since you're already hitting attraction switches then you should test for comfort and escalate.

Kudos bro!

[Guest]

Still learning this new stuff...the mr nice guy routine...went on a date with a 9 last Sunday, then sent her two text messages, one Monday, one Tuesday, both really indicating that I liked her a lot...haven't heard back from that one since. You can do that on a 6 or 7, but I guess it backfires on a 9. The Game still has to be played as textbook normal with the hot women AFTER you number close. It's avoiding cocky on the approach and initial meeting that's important for me.

So, Thursday, I meet some friends at Lemon Bar. I got drunk and found the stones to approach the hottest girl in the place....pretty sure she's a 10. Opened with "I'm getting drunk tonight. The girl of my dreams broke my heart today." She had also watched me dump off a 4 who was attacking me, which may have helped more than I realized. This girl was 22, smoking hot tan...beautiful. Hope I don't fuck this up in phone game. But it's a HUGE accomplishment for me number close a 10. Never done that before.

Bottom line:

[B]approach, initial meeting[/B]...avoid cocky, no hard to get, show lot's of interest

[B]phone game[/B]...business as usual, he who cares less wins

You guys agree with these assumptions for the hot guy?

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Alphagame;35971]
Bottom line:

[B]approach, initial meeting[/B]...avoid cocky, no hard to get, show lot's of interest

[B]phone game[/B]...business as usual, he who cares less wins

You guys agree with these assumptions for the hot guy?[/QUOTE]

I like to go completely overboard with the first meetup. Like "I love you, let's get married tonight! I can't wait to cuddle with you all night" kind of overboard. It works very well. She knows I'm full of shit but she loves to play the game.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Alphagame;35971]
Bottom line:

[B]approach, initial meeting[/B]...avoid cocky, no hard to get, show lot's of interest

[B]phone game[/B]...business as usual, he who cares less wins

You guys agree with these assumptions for the hot guy?[/QUOTE]

I went through a phase, which was my most successful, where my whole game was to go up and talk to a girl, get in a long conversation at the bar with some sexual tension but not enough to fuck up the phone game later. Then I'd call her (not text), set up a day two, badda bing badda boom. My opener was always just "hi" or something like that. And I just talked.

That seems to go against the grain, but it worked for me. Cocky funny never worked that well for me, but it works for some folks. I think it's all inner game. I think the phone game part is won or lost before you ever call her. Don't make it weird in any way, and by that I mean don't make her feel responsible for anything.