Sticking point: depression

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Postby Guest » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:09 pm

I'm going to throw my .02 in here and say that maybe you could skip all the medicine and supplements.

What kind of food do you eat?

Diet has a huge impact on our mood and behavior. If you eat shit you feel like shit. If you eat great you will feel great. I cannot stress enough how important your diet is for your well-being.

How much do you drink?

Drinking has a huge (negative) impact on our moods.

How much do you exercise?

If you said "never" then it is no wonder you do not feel good.

"Medicine" and supplements will treat the symptoms, they will not treat the actual cause.

Clean yourself up from the ground up and you do not need anything extra.

A healthy body = a healthy mind. Work on yourself before throwing rx drugs at the problem.

Put down the mcdonalds, put down the beer, throw away the drugs the doctors give you, pick up a barbell, and feel like a new man.
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Postby Guest » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:15 pm

Lion, thats some solid advice. Too bad the only ones that will truly appreciate it are the ones who have been there and done it!

I'd like to add that adequate "sleep" is important.
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Postby Guest » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:34 pm

[QUOTE=UncleHOwie;34748]Lion, thats some solid advice. Too bad the only ones that will truly appreciate it are the ones who have been there and done it!

I'd like to add that adequate "sleep" is important.[/QUOTE]


Ditto X 2.

I think it's natural for people to look for an easy and instantaneous way out. The reason why more people don't follow Lion's advice is because it takes work and effort, something most people are averse.
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Postby Guest » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:44 pm

I agree. Antidepressants do not cure depression at all. I've studied psychology, and it's actually my major this time around. All medication does is make you feel like you're not depressed. There's a lot of people that have been on antidepressants for five years or more and if they stop taking them, they fall right back into the rut they were in. They are just a facade to make you believe that you are better. You actually have to work at becoming well after determining that you are depressed.
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Postby Guest » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:45 am

[QUOTE=Gamble;34752]I agree. Antidepressants do not cure depression at all. I've studied psychology, and it's actually my major this time around. All medication does is make you feel like you're not depressed. There's a lot of people that have been on antidepressants for five years or more and if they stop taking them, they fall right back into the rut they were in. They are just a facade to make you believe that you are better. You actually have to work at becoming well after determining that you are depressed.[/QUOTE]

I'm a psychology major as well. I have also been on and gotten off of antidepressants at one point in my life. I agree they do not cure the actual issues. If all you do is take the drug you will probably feel a little better, but you are just covering up the problem. They can however give a person just enough of a boost to go seek real help. I'm not sure you have ever been in a state of debilitating depression, but it makes it hard to get up out of bed because you believe your life is a total piece of crap. The effort it seems to take to do normal things seems extraordinary. In this state if antidepressants help you to get up and deal with your problems then I think they are a good thing. If however a person is too weak to take those steps then yes they are just a band aid and they will never feel quite right.

Everything lion says is great. I think exercise is the most important because of it's quick benefits. Some people have begun to come out of a depression just a week after beginning an exercise routine. Not only that, but just try eating 3 big macs and going to work out and tell me you want to eat mcdonalds again. I did that and really haven't been back since.
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Postby Guest » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:13 am

I can't tell you how much I appreciate all the input. So far the things that have made me the happiest are active steps I've been taking to meet my new career goals, and stepping back from the game and not going out for a little bit.

The problem for me isn't really getting out of the house. I'm already in the habit of going out all the time. I feel compelled to do it all the time but it seems only out of desperation. I think that's a bad reason to want to go out, and it ends up setting you up for faliure. The tipping point for me (just shortly before I wrote this post) was I ran into my ex at some bar, and as soon as she left I started making out with another girl that I knew. This was a girl that I never liked and had no value to me at all. I really regreted doing it because I did it for all the wrong reasons, and I stopped myself before things went any further.

Now when someone calls me for a night on the town, I ask myself, "Do I really want to go to this, or is there something else motivating me to do it that's not in my best interest?" I think there's a certain strength in being able to opt out of these situations, if that makes any sense.

Exercise seems like a good idea and I want to get started on that very soon. Any regimen people on here want to suggest? I'm looking more for something that'll increase stamina more so than something that'll increase strength, but honestly I know very little on the subject.
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Postby Guest » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:15 am

[QUOTE=Fuzz;34765]I can't tell you how much I appreciate all the input. So far the things that have made me the happiest are active steps I've been taking to meet my new career goals, and stepping back from the game and not going out for a little bit.

The problem for me isn't really getting out of the house. I'm already in the habit of going out all the time. I feel compelled to do it all the time but it seems only out of desperation. I think that's a bad reason to want to go out, and it ends up setting you up for faliure. The tipping point for me (just shortly before I wrote this post) was I ran into my ex at some bar, and as soon as she left I started making out with another girl that I knew. This was a girl that I never liked and had no value to me at all. I really regreted doing it because I did it for all the wrong reasons, and I stopped myself before things went any further.

Now when someone calls me for a night on the town, I ask myself, "Do I really want to go to this, or is there something else motivating me to do it that's not in my best interest?" I think there's a certain strength in being able to opt out of these situations, if that makes any sense.

Exercise seems like a good idea and I want to get started on that very soon. Any regimen people on here want to suggest? I'm looking more for something that'll increase stamina more so than something that'll increase strength, but honestly I know very little on the subject.[/QUOTE]


Why is it that you don't want to go out? Is it because you feel compelled to run Game? If so, just forget it and focus on having fun with your friends. When you're feeling down on yourself, one of the worst things to do is to isolate yourself. You need to surround yourself with people that enjoy you and that you enjoy...it'll take your mind off of how you're feeling AND will serve as a reminder that you're a cool dude.

As for making out with some chick you don't really like, so what? That's no big deal at all. Just focus on having fun. If you had fun making out with her then there's nothing wrong with that, if you didn't have fun then stop. It's that simple.

As for ex, you've got to get past that shit man. She KNOWS what she's doing to you and she's going to keep doing it until you don't let her do so. What, in my opinion, you've developed here is a case of habituation. You've fallen into the habit of allowing your ex impact your mental state. Read that again, YOU'VE LET HER IMPACT YOUR MENTAL STATE. Just like someone that has a habit of drinking a lot, you've let your habit control you instead of you being in control.
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