Hopefully this this thread will start out as an open post for your tips and advice, but will end as lay report.
About a year ago ( before I got into pickup) there was this girl that I used to work with for now we'll just call her K. She has a very blunt and alpha personality. She is never afraid to say what she is thinking or what she wants. It's really sexy. I used to hang out with her a ton. We worked together and partied together. Even though there was some for the most part innocent flirting going on I wasn't really pursuing because she had a serious boyfriend. They lived together. I'm not really sure when or how it happened but the flirting started to escalate and we made out a few times. It's kinda weird now that I think about it I used to be her best friend's make out buddy at the same time and she knew about it. This one night when we were both pretty drunk she threw herself at me. I didn't feel right about it because I knew her bf and thought he was a pretty cool guy for the most part, so I turned it down. We talked about it really openly later and she very bluntly told me that she wanted me to be her guy on the side. She had no plans to break up with her boyfriend at the time so again I said that I didn't think it would be a good idea. I haven't seen her in a while and hung out her and the same group of friends that we used to roll with last week. I quit working with her about 9 months ago and haven't seen as much of her as i used to. She texted me when I was late showing up asking me where I was. Which I thought was kinda weird cause like I said her and I don't really hang out that frequently anymore. As soon as I got there she told me to come sit by her and almost immediately let me know that her and bf had broken up last monday. All ioi's maybe... Now a lot has changed since before. First off I got into and have excelled at game since then. Her and all her friends have noticed my transition into the confident lady killer that I am now. They all roll their eyes and are like there he goes again everytime they see me number closing girls outside of our group which happens everytime we go somewhere now. Secondly all the reasons It didn't happen before are no longer there (bf + working together + being her best friends drunken hookup). But in a lot of ways they all see me as the guy I was before (afc that never seals the deal). I know that after a girl violently throws herself at you and you don't take her up on it that door usually closes shut and you will never get a chance again. In a weird way she loses a certain respect for you because you didn't fuck. My question is this... I didn't seal the deal with her or her best friend before, but I am nowhere close the same guy now. I always wanted to hit that but my morals (which may have made her respect me more as a person) probably killed some of the attraction that was there and made me look kinda weak and beta. Is there any hope of this happening? How would you guys play it? Have any of you come back from this type of situation? Thanks for reading guys, I'm really interested to hear what everyone has to say.
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by Guest » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:53 pm
[QUOTE=Ram;33441]Hopefully this this thread will start out as an open post for your tips and advice, but will end as lay report.
About a year ago ( before I got into pickup) there was this girl that I used to work with for now we'll just call her K. She has a very blunt and alpha personality. She is never afraid to say what she is thinking or what she wants. It's really sexy. I used to hang out with her a ton. We worked together and partied together. Even though there was some for the most part innocent flirting going on I wasn't really pursuing because she had a serious boyfriend. They lived together. I'm not really sure when or how it happened but the flirting started to escalate and we made out a few times. It's kinda weird now that I think about it I used to be her best friend's make out buddy at the same time and she knew about it. This one night when we were both pretty drunk she threw herself at me. I didn't feel right about it because I knew her bf and thought he was a pretty cool guy for the most part, so I turned it down. We talked about it really openly later and she very bluntly told me that she wanted me to be her guy on the side. She had no plans to break up with her boyfriend at the time so again I said that I didn't think it would be a good idea. I haven't seen her in a while and hung out her and the same group of friends that we used to roll with last week. I quit working with her about 9 months ago and haven't seen as much of her as i used to. She texted me when I was late showing up asking me where I was. Which I thought was kinda weird cause like I said her and I don't really hang out that frequently anymore. As soon as I got there she told me to come sit by her and almost immediately let me know that her and bf had broken up last monday. All ioi's maybe... Now a lot has changed since before. First off I got into and have excelled at game since then. Her and all her friends have noticed my transition into the confident lady killer that I am now. They all roll their eyes and are like there he goes again everytime they see me number closing girls outside of our group which happens everytime we go somewhere now. Secondly all the reasons It didn't happen before are no longer there (bf + working together + being her best friends drunken hookup). But in a lot of ways they all see me as the guy I was before (afc that never seals the deal). I know that after a girl violently throws herself at you and you don't take her up on it that door usually closes shut and you will never get a chance again. In a weird way she loses a certain respect for you because you didn't fuck. My question is this... I didn't seal the deal with her or her best friend before, but I am nowhere close the same guy now. I always wanted to hit that but my morals (which may have made her respect me more as a person) probably killed some of the attraction that was there and made me look kinda weak and beta. Is there any hope of this happening? How would you guys play it? Have any of you come back from this type of situation? Thanks for reading guys, I'm really interested to hear what everyone has to say.[/QUOTE]
Wow. You've got a handful of gross misconceptions in your thinking. First of all, just because you didn't fuck her or her friend doesn't mean that she's lost respect for you. It doesn't make you a beta male. What makes you a beta male is if you WANTED to fuck them but they gave you the stiff arm or otherwise rejected you AND you kept trying. That makes you a beta male. But, you didn't do any of that. You put your foot down and stuck to your guns, your life philosophy, and personal morals. This is what an alpha male does...he does what he wants, when he wants it, under the circumstances that he demands.
I think you may be more alpha to her than you think.
The way you play this is exactly the way you would play any set that you just went in to. The fact is that this is a different set because you are a different person. So, you need to approach her and her friends the way you would approach any group of women.
The way to play this is to show her that you are a different man than you used to be, that you've changed for the better, and that you have options. The fact that her friends see you close other girls is a good thing. I'm sure they told her. Now, she has some competition...and, there's nothing better than being with a woman that feels like she's competing with other girls for you.
I think you're in a very good place actually. I don't think you need to do much to nail this girl. Just be sure to treat the way you would any other woman and you'll be fine.
About a year ago ( before I got into pickup) there was this girl that I used to work with for now we'll just call her K. She has a very blunt and alpha personality. She is never afraid to say what she is thinking or what she wants. It's really sexy. I used to hang out with her a ton. We worked together and partied together. Even though there was some for the most part innocent flirting going on I wasn't really pursuing because she had a serious boyfriend. They lived together. I'm not really sure when or how it happened but the flirting started to escalate and we made out a few times. It's kinda weird now that I think about it I used to be her best friend's make out buddy at the same time and she knew about it. This one night when we were both pretty drunk she threw herself at me. I didn't feel right about it because I knew her bf and thought he was a pretty cool guy for the most part, so I turned it down. We talked about it really openly later and she very bluntly told me that she wanted me to be her guy on the side. She had no plans to break up with her boyfriend at the time so again I said that I didn't think it would be a good idea. I haven't seen her in a while and hung out her and the same group of friends that we used to roll with last week. I quit working with her about 9 months ago and haven't seen as much of her as i used to. She texted me when I was late showing up asking me where I was. Which I thought was kinda weird cause like I said her and I don't really hang out that frequently anymore. As soon as I got there she told me to come sit by her and almost immediately let me know that her and bf had broken up last monday. All ioi's maybe... Now a lot has changed since before. First off I got into and have excelled at game since then. Her and all her friends have noticed my transition into the confident lady killer that I am now. They all roll their eyes and are like there he goes again everytime they see me number closing girls outside of our group which happens everytime we go somewhere now. Secondly all the reasons It didn't happen before are no longer there (bf + working together + being her best friends drunken hookup). But in a lot of ways they all see me as the guy I was before (afc that never seals the deal). I know that after a girl violently throws herself at you and you don't take her up on it that door usually closes shut and you will never get a chance again. In a weird way she loses a certain respect for you because you didn't fuck. My question is this... I didn't seal the deal with her or her best friend before, but I am nowhere close the same guy now. I always wanted to hit that but my morals (which may have made her respect me more as a person) probably killed some of the attraction that was there and made me look kinda weak and beta. Is there any hope of this happening? How would you guys play it? Have any of you come back from this type of situation? Thanks for reading guys, I'm really interested to hear what everyone has to say.[/QUOTE]
Wow. You've got a handful of gross misconceptions in your thinking. First of all, just because you didn't fuck her or her friend doesn't mean that she's lost respect for you. It doesn't make you a beta male. What makes you a beta male is if you WANTED to fuck them but they gave you the stiff arm or otherwise rejected you AND you kept trying. That makes you a beta male. But, you didn't do any of that. You put your foot down and stuck to your guns, your life philosophy, and personal morals. This is what an alpha male does...he does what he wants, when he wants it, under the circumstances that he demands.
I think you may be more alpha to her than you think.
The way you play this is exactly the way you would play any set that you just went in to. The fact is that this is a different set because you are a different person. So, you need to approach her and her friends the way you would approach any group of women.
The way to play this is to show her that you are a different man than you used to be, that you've changed for the better, and that you have options. The fact that her friends see you close other girls is a good thing. I'm sure they told her. Now, she has some competition...and, there's nothing better than being with a woman that feels like she's competing with other girls for you.
I think you're in a very good place actually. I don't think you need to do much to nail this girl. Just be sure to treat the way you would any other woman and you'll be fine.
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by Guest » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:48 pm
Unless you are leading us down the wrong path I see nothing that resembles a Beta Male. This description had Alpha characteristics written all over it. Not only that it showed that you actually have morals(Something lacking in most humans these days).
You are wondering if you can still sleep with this girl? Did you know that you could have slept with her the last time you hung out with her?
HB: Hey come over here and sit next to me.
HB: Ohh BTW I broke up with my BF.
She pretty much said hey look I know you didn't want to sleep with me before because I had a BF. Now I don't have a BF so we should sleep together.
You hold all the cards here. If you want to sleep with this girl just take her out, meet up with her, have her over. Just be in her company and you will pretty much have this with ease. You don't need any sort of "Game" to pull this off. You could have had this girl long ago so any skill set you have now acquired(While I don't Believe is Now Necessary) will come in handy.
Pretty much the only thing you need to do now is not get in the way of yourself. Don't do anything stupid. You have nothing to prove to this girl to get her into bed. Just hang out with her one night(preferably at your house) have some drinks and I am pretty certain one thing will lead to another.
"Lead"
You are wondering if you can still sleep with this girl? Did you know that you could have slept with her the last time you hung out with her?
HB: Hey come over here and sit next to me.
HB: Ohh BTW I broke up with my BF.
She pretty much said hey look I know you didn't want to sleep with me before because I had a BF. Now I don't have a BF so we should sleep together.
You hold all the cards here. If you want to sleep with this girl just take her out, meet up with her, have her over. Just be in her company and you will pretty much have this with ease. You don't need any sort of "Game" to pull this off. You could have had this girl long ago so any skill set you have now acquired(While I don't Believe is Now Necessary) will come in handy.
Pretty much the only thing you need to do now is not get in the way of yourself. Don't do anything stupid. You have nothing to prove to this girl to get her into bed. Just hang out with her one night(preferably at your house) have some drinks and I am pretty certain one thing will lead to another.
"Lead"
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by Guest » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:22 am
You guys are totally right. The comfort and attraction are already there. It is true that I am extremely alpha in my own way. I'm a really nice guy but try get a reaction out of me and see what happens... absolutely nothing. Would it be better do disqualify myself and act like I DON'T want to sleep with her? Bring her back to the state we were in before (her pursuing me) or would you just throw it out there?
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by Guest » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:04 am
[QUOTE=Ram;33446]You guys are totally right. The comfort and attraction are already there. It is true that I am extremely alpha in my own way. I'm a really nice guy but try get a reaction out of me and see what happens... absolutely nothing. Would it be better do disqualify myself and act like I DON'T want to sleep with her? Bring her back to the state we were in before (her pursuing me) or would you just throw it out there?[/QUOTE]
Do what PC says. You don't really have to do anything to get this girl. You're putting way too much thought into this. Just go out with her and be yourself, your new self mixed in with the person she knows and likes. If you do that, you'll be just fine. It really is as easy as just getting with her for a night out.
Do what PC says. You don't really have to do anything to get this girl. You're putting way too much thought into this. Just go out with her and be yourself, your new self mixed in with the person she knows and likes. If you do that, you'll be just fine. It really is as easy as just getting with her for a night out.
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