Frame games and eliciting values

[Guest]

How important are frames? Who lays the frames and whats the smoothest way to do it?

Frames are essential to a majority of my game. I know that in order to get my target thinking sexually, I have to get her susceptible to the idea of being sexual with me. To do this I have to prove to her or persuade her mind to see me as someone of high value.

On a cold approach, unfortunately, the initial seconds of the interaction she paints you as nobody important to her. Joe schmo... equal if not lesser value than herself.

BUT! thats why god created the theory of frames. In sales, the person that asks the most questions wins. Effectively applied the same can be applied to PU. However we've learned that in Pick-up the person who makes the most statements wins. But the theory applies. A correctly trained salesman knows to lead the customer with his questions. So a properly trained PUA leads like this:

"Ugh I'm sick of boring girls with no imagination. Do you see what I mean? U seem like a pretty imaginative girl. am I right?"

theres a bit of NLP in this. Tag questions, diction. What's more important here is that the underlying tone here is that "if ur boring, i wont put up with it"

What she is interpreting unconsciously is a challenge. A standard of sorts for her to confirm to. Ive said it before, but most people are more worried about how they appear to you, than how u appear to them. This leaves u with an advantage to take the lead and gives you a chance to exercise your authority by giving/ her them a chance to prove themselves to you.

........late to class......

[Guest]

"Don't tell me what to do woman!" (frame to get her to fight back and "play")

[Guest]

Exactly! Now she plays along and such silliness becomes allowed in the future. this creates Comfort as there will be no judging were she to randomly show her creative/playful side.

by setting frames, more importantly these frames: creative, random, fun, exciting, you are able to overcome that awkward cold approach labeling and define yourself as a guy worth holding on to. High value.

If you can lay these frames, shes more apt to open up sexually to you. Recent incident, the girl I met in "Redriver shootout" FR. I remember Acuity asking me how I get them to fall in love with me so fast. It was all frames. Within days of # closing her phone sex became a regular thing. Beyond that With just setting those frames, I have her sending me letters in the mail, and other text messages in which she openly talks about things girls dont talk about with anyone. And what's important about that, is it BLASTS all chances of LMR ahead of time.

Common frame games:
-Ur such a good girl. You wouldnt last the night!
- I'm sick of boring girls
- We need to talk about the things you did to me in my sleep last night.
- Stop lookin @ my sugar lumps!I dont need you undressing me with your tongue
- Thats what good girls get

Frames can also be used for the intent of thwarting Amogs."(preferrably not the ones above)

[Guest]

I prefer wooden frames... with glossy paint... preferably around picture of Jessica Alba.. that's just my opinion. ;)

[Guest]

i prefer nothing around Jessica alba...n-o-t-h-i-n-g

[Guest]

As a community, we really need to spend a lot more time discussing the use of frames. I think they are, by far, the best ways to manage women and get them to comply to your desires.

My game is all about getting women to do things with me that they have never done, or never thought of doing before, usually in a sexual context. Just this last week, I've been able to accomplish exactly that with a chick I recently met. By the end of the week, I had her doing things that she's never done before....and, loving it...and, initiating a lot of it! When you get a Smitten Kitten on your hands, this is the byproduct: complete and total compliance with your demands because she so strongly wants to please you.

[Guest]

Yeah, if I was forced to distill game to just 2 - 3 principles, I'd say framing / reframing would be one of them. Using "fun", "non-judgemental" and "discrete" frames have been really useful, but I still have trouble with initiating sexual framing at the beginning of an interaction.