Hitting the Inner Game Rock-bottom

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well put vector. i am a fan of 'fake it till you make it.' if you tell yourself something long enough, sooner or later you will belive it.

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[quote1230245192=Skepsis]THE BEST INNER GAME IS A GOOD OUTER GAME.[/quote1230245192]

Ehh. I don't know about this one. Well all talk about Inner and Outer Game like they somehow fit together. Like one feeds off the other. I don't agree. I don't think the existence of one means the presence of another. I've met guys with great outer game that are ugly inside, and I've met guys with shitty outer game that are amazing inside. One doesn't equal the other...
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My opinion is outer game can lead to some degree of increased success, which can in turn help with confidence with women and the general feeling that "women like me." But there is a lot more to the overall inner game picture than just feeling sexy, which includes having your life together and having healthy self-esteem in general, knowing that you really do deserve high quality. I don't think that part of inner game can be helped by outer game or by success with women.
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I guess I phrased it wrong. To clarify, what I mean by outer game is the responses you get from people. When you have a good "outer game" or whatever, girls give positive responses. Even if these lines are canned or not mine, I'm still saying them and getting the reaction from them. The positive responses that I PRODUCE from my GAME makes me happy. Sure, other things obviously need to be there too, it can't all be from PUA. But my point is that getting these great reactions makes you feel awesome and kinda powerful in a way. It really helps get the other aspects of you inner game in another light because you feel like "I just overcame one inner game limiting belief, why can't I crush the others?" It has helped me at least.

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All short, pithy statements are oversimplifications.

Which means they aren't to be taken literally, but they can still contain a basis in truth. I agree that outer game can help with inner game.

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ok i got a question...i just came back after goin to the mall today with a HBFriend...im tryin to get outta being friends with her but i feel that i didnt do that great of a job since it was hard to do any sexual kino cause of being at the mall in such crazy conditions(day after xmas sale)..it is safe to say that i shoulda made it sexual the first time around but hey...im a newbie with major inner game issues lol..still tryin to learn

two things i noticed tho:
1. I think she tried to qualify herself to me when she mentioned my 'stanky' ex gfs how fucked up they were...and said 'i would never do that'..hmmm
2. I texted her about an hour after we left the mall and said
"Dammit..now i cant get you in victoria's secret outta my head now...thanks alot!!"
she replies "hahahha yay"
i then reply "yay??? its tourture!! ;-)"

what are yall thoughts...concerns...advice even?

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Hey I'm not gonna tell you to just be confident, I have horrible inner game too. every time I get in a relationship when I come out I'm a freaking AFC again. so I have broken it down into specific things that have helped me a whole lot. first the two inner game sticking points most guys have is approach anxiety and pulling the trigger. I have had both and both come from not having a specific gambit. Think about it a bit...you can run into a battle where people are shooting at you and do your job because of your training.

to overcome approach anxiety: OK mine was fucking crippling when I went from KJ to field. as a matter of fact a rated it every time I went out from 1-10. these are things I found that lowered that number constantly. I started with just randomly asking girls questions at the mall. so the drill goes get a wing and a stop watch. approach 20 girls in ten minutes. it doesn't matter what you say. your not trying to pick them up just freaking talk to them. I always seem to hang with great wings who are bad ass at approaching then I wing them. I start to see patterns in the approach. the last part is memorize a new opener every week, then start opening sets. yes you will get blown out. yes you will look like a chode. yes it really sucks. do it. soon you will get stuck in a quality problem...your warm up sets stick and you're locked in convo with a girl you're not that into. (or she follows you around, stalling all your others) .BTW if anyone has overcome this problem I'd love advice.

So you're in set and you don't advance, you don't ask for the number, you don't go for a kiss gambit. your just freaking talking like a political candidate. The three things I have found that a girl will not give you on a silver platter are her phone number, a kiss, and her pussy. You have to ask for all three of those things, and they have to be your fault, so she can tell her friends "IDK what happened I just tripped and fell on his dick". (chick logic is weird) start with asking for the phone number. you can get almost any girl to give you her phone number believe it or not. In my experience you can wad that phone number up and throw it away...but I don't have all that great phone game. Then after you're comfortable asking for the phone number stick around and go for the kiss gambit. note: don't practice kiss gambits at the places you frequent. you're gonna get a reputation for making out with girls and you'll have a hard time f-closing.(she's gonna tell you "I'm not like other girls") Then after you've kiss closed stick around, she likes you, you like her. bounce with her and her friends. who BTW will wing the shit out of you after you've made out with her. then let nature take it's course. You'll have rock solid day twos and maybe SNL's. though I've never had an SNL... I'm working on it though.

so to wrap this all up. solid outer game will breed solid inner game just like your military training.

-Rockstar

BTW online game is easy but you're gonna pull hotter girls more constantly from bars.

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I'm so tired of this "inner-game." If you life is fucked up and you're an emotional wreck, admit it to yourself, then fix it. Figure out what you must to do make the other you happy, or disregard it.
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Gunny-come out 1/2 to the meetup. I went out on the 19th-1st time, and had a blast. It's all about having the fun man. Laughing and learning, coaching and practicing. Its a game.
Have Fun, and like Cap'n Caveman wrote, sarcasm and humor go a long way, expecially if you catch it! You can even see how serious Smirks can be!

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yea ill be there...i feel the one thing that will get me through it is to actually see people atleast trying to do some pick up...i feel if i see it..then it will push me to do it...i was actually at a house get together type thing on friday night with some HB 8's...i was pretty nervous to talk to them..but then i started to get comfortable and i seriously had them laughing the entire flippin night..i feel if you can get the girls to laugh..its a big bonus...but even with that i just can not pull a trigger..if i wanna keep my name a gunner..i need to learn how ACTUALLY pull the damn trigger!!!! i just dont understand...i knnow they are interested just enough for me to use some PU skills...i can see it in my mind and after the interaction but just cant do it in real time...thats why i need to SEE IT from yall so ill see yall in the next meet up