Never had a day 2

[Guest]

I realized the other night that I have never had a day 2. Every girlfriend I have ever had, with 2 notable exceptions has been an SNL. I don't say that to brag. I have never been able to make a day 2 happen. If I don't wake up with here the morning after I meet her, it ain't gonna happen. I wouldn't consider it a problem if the current structure of my live didn't pretty well require day 2s.

So the question is, why don't my number closes convert? Is the problem in how I number close? If not then, my problem is my phone and text game. What do I need to do? Any suggestions? Any Resources you can point me to? I'm thinking about what to say, when to say it, in both voice and text.

I am thinking mostly about text game, It seems to be becoming a cornerstone of the game. What should I stick to? What should I avoid? How soon? what kind of tempo to the text game. Anyone have any text game gambits they could share? Is it possible to set up a bunch of preprogrammed text responses? I want to know this stuff, totally deconstruct it and build it back up so I am money with it.

Thanks in advance for the help!

[Guest]

I really don't think its your text game. Getting the phone number is just a bridge to a future meeting with a girl. The foundation and building of that bridge happens when you are first with her. Good phone and text game can help you slightly, but if she likes you and was serious about meeting you then even shitty phone and text game wouldn't matter too much.

I think you should work on having more of a reason to be closing her. Are you closing her based on a future meet or just because you want the number? Just wanting the number, well you got it congrats, but she will not be inclined to answer when you call. Start to have more reasons for meeting up with her in the future.

One thing I want to say about text game and in person game as far as flakeage goes is the importance of intrigue. Such as the way I like to do dates.

Me: hey do you like water and outdoorsy stuff?

Her: yea?

Me: alright meet me on friday and wear your water and outdoorsy stuff clothes

Her: what are we doing?

Me: well that would ruin the surprise now wouldn't it?

Her: tell me!

Me: nope you will just have to wait and see

she pestered me all week about this and on friday I took her to the water gardens. I have never had a girl flake that I got intrigued like that.

[Guest]

Zine's right. I don't think tight text or phone game matters all that much, assuming you met her in person first. If you've built enough intrigue she's not going to flake.

I remember I sarged once with a guy, who shall remain nameless, and he number closed like no one else. He must have gotten 10 numbers the night we went out. While I got 1 single number, just 1. Of the 10 numbers he got, all flaked. My single number was in my bed the next night.

The difference between the two of us was that I took the time to build comfort. He, on the other hand, didn't. He asked for a number within 10 minutes and then immediately left the set. I on the other hand didn't ask at all until I was about to leave. The foundation was rock solid. His, on the other hand, wasn't. Later that night I sent her the following text:

Me: You never did buy me that drink...guess you'll have to make it up to me tomorrow...

The next day I sent something like this:

Me: Meet me at xyz bar at 10...you get the first round and I'll buy the second if you're lucky ;)

That was it. Two volleys and I got a day2. I don't consider the texts to be anything special. Just a continuation of the tone of our meeting in person. She liked me, that's all that mattered to her.

Now, I don't think for a single second that you're doing the same thing as the wing in the above story. Instead, I'm using this to make a point. If you don't have a solid foundation, you don't get a day2. Your text/phone game makes little to no difference, it's just one of those things that makes it a little bit easier once you do get her in person again. In other words, texting is good at priming the pump. You can build her state via text through anticipation. But, it's not necessary.

Focus on deconstructing the personal interactions. I bet there's something you're missing.

[Guest]

hey guys! it's been a while!
yup yup i don't think i recall having day 2 myself lol
Maybe I did or maybe I didn't!
However!!
i'm bout to this sunday tho!
I guess it works better when you ain't tryin so hard to sarge.

[Guest]

I'm not currently exlusive, but I do hang out with one particular girl more than others. Because of this I rarely try to sarge girls. I like to talk to them still just because its fun, but instead of game I focus on just being genuine and enjoying myself and them. I got a haircut earlier and did this and the girl gave me her number, I didn't even ask. Either that girl was just horny because she watched some porn before cutting my hair, or not trying is actually the best way to get girls. The real question is how can you get yourself into the mindset of not having to try?

[Guest]

thanks for the info guys but right now, I am kind of inundated with girls. My big thing right now is trying to decide what kind of life I want to lead. On the one hand, I met a good christian girl that I could be exclusive with, on the other hand I have about a half dozen girls that are chasing me around that I could have lots of empty sex with.
I am under no delusions about things, I just need to figure out if I should follow the planned path of practice and MLTRs or throw all that out and explore the kind of relationship that I wanted that got me into my current situation.