Good Analysis of why nightgame sucks

[voyager]

I had a meet'n'skeet off OkCupid - nothing spectacular, but it got me out of a dry spell. And another time I met up with a chick who was SIGNIFICANTLY less attractive than her pictures. I have kind of shied away from it since then.

So, your mileage may vary.

I am considering trying out match or one of the paid sites in the future to see what the offerings are like there, because I would assume that if people are paying money to use it then they will take it more seriously.

[Gunslinger]

Here are a couple interesting articles from Roissy's blog about online dating.

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/09/ ... is-futile/

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/ ... line-game/

[Bull Run]

@Rhody

I think that's a very accurate description of online game and the various dating sites available.

@voyager

That's part of the growing pains involved with online game. Just like with traditional game, there are rules and shortcuts that you have to emply in order to be effective. For example, you have to understand the ways in which you can manipulate how they look in photos. They do it all the time. The fat girl angle shot is the most notorious of them all, some call it the Myspace/Facebook shot. A picture of the girl, taken themselves where they raise the camera up and shoot down on their face and chest. It slims the face because she's looking up, accentuates her fatty tits (appearing to look like cleavge), and hides her Jabba The Hut arms. That's just ONE example of how wominez decieve men with their pics.

But, I digress. Back to the rules. One rule of thumb with bar/club game is to not get too drunk. Yeah, I've broken that rule one too many times and ended up meeting up with a chick that I remember being much, much more attractive than she was the second time around. So, there are rules and strategies that have to adhered too.

@Gunslinger

The Chateau is universally right in many, many respects. In fact, he's required reading for any man trying to learn game or just navigate through this fucked up world of ours. However, check out the dates on those blog enteries. They're very dated and in many, many ways not at all right any longer. 2008 and 2009 was a different world man, not because we're different but because social change is happening so fast due to changes in social technology. Shit, back then I never used Facebook, called more than I texted, and couldn't surf the net on my fucking cell phone.

Consider this. Back during MySpace's heyday, the community was trying to discover effective ways to use it as a dating tool. As a way to meet women and game them. It actually was pretty effective because every woman's profile was almost always available to the public to read and she was open to being contacted without asking permission. I used it a few times with limited success and cast it aside in favor of bar/club game because it was way more effective. Then, came along Facebook, which was centered around creating specific, private groups to corespond with your limited circle of friends. So, what went from being an open world where random strangers where invited and welcomed to approach became one in which you could only say 'hi' if you knew me or knew a friend of mine.

The bars/clubs evolved in much the same way in parallel. There was a time when people would go to bars/clubs to meet new people. Shit, that was the only way adults met new people. People still do that for sure, but it's not like it was back in the day. Things don't feel nearly as warm as they used to, people aren't nearly as open and I think it very much is due to social media. Look at Uptown. There was a time, crirca 2007-2009, that people were open and receptive to meeting new people at bars. Sure they were pretty cliquey but still somewhat open. Now, look at today. Most places just feel so uptight...tighter than a dolphin's pussy, water tight.

There was a night you and me were out and we ran into a co-worker of mine that I knew pretty well. She introduced us to her friends and even with HER approval of us they were still complete dicks. They fucking looked at us like we were fucking lepers. That shit happens all the time. A few years ago when I approached a girl in a bar, I got strong eye contact, open body language, and a smile. Now, I get a look of confusion. As if they're saying, why is a strange man talking to me? The funny thing is that my game is stronger today than it was then, but in most approaches you don't even get the chance to run game. It's over before it begins because more and more women are just not receptive to meeting a guy at a bar.

Then again, we could always go to Addison and play with the common stock pigs there. Or, go to Frisco and get groped by cougars.

That dynamic is driving women to the internet to get outside of their circle of friends. The shift has been drastic and is gaining a lot of momentum. The question for us isn't why it's happening or to long for the good old days when women WANTED men to talk to them at a bar. Instead, it's how do we exploit it so that we can get our dicks as wet as possible.

[TopDog]

Gentlemen....As a veteran long gone from the scene and just checking back in. Listen to BullRun. He is right. I can speak from years of experience as the community has evolved. He is usually on point with his analysis.

Bullrun... hope all is well my friend.

[Bull Run]

Gentlemen....As a veteran long gone from the scene and just checking back in. Listen to BullRun. He is right. I can speak from years of experience as the community has evolved. He is usually on point with his analysis.

Bullrun... hope all is well my friend.

Hey man!!! I'm great, hope all is well with you man. I miss acting like I was your bodyguard when we were out...ah, good times.