Opinions wanted: sarging alone?

[the_devil]

What is the optimal number of people to sarge with and why?

I'm successful with non-community friends, I'm successful alone (in my limited experience) When I go sarging with community people my game feels off. Maybe I'm searching for validation when I do it, I don't know.

[the_devil]

Post something shit. Fuck if you think its a stupid question, say that but say something. Fucking question has been up forever.

[Kew]

Well, as far as sarging with people from the community goes, I think it can be a mixed back. One thing I've noticed is that people generally open way less sets then I imagine they would if they were on their own then when the group is around. And you could be absolutely right regarding validation. Many turn it around to an impressing guys thing instead of a getting girls thing, I think. Regardless, do what works best for you. The fact that you are still giving a fuck what other people think is a limiting factor, one I too struggle with. Try and not care!

[Scoundrel]

I mostly go out alone. However, a good wing, somebody you really connect with, is a fantastic asset. It's just tough to find a good guy that you can connect with. A good wing has a great deal in common with you other than the community. You've both seen all the same films and heard all the same jokes. You can bounce things off each other like the dueling piano guys or a great comic team.

[Lucky9]

To be honest if your really new to Pick-Up Game then sarging alone isnt a great Idea right off the bat.


ALONE
-Sarging alone takes alot of good energy and confidence. When you walk into a club or bar or anywhere you need to convey a persona that your comfortable with your environment and comfortable with meeting new people(It makes people feel comfortable around you).

-Build momentum before walking in, talk to as many people as you can to get you feeling positive. Girl or guy just talk and break barriers.

-When going in dont stay stagnant in one place, talk to people no matter who they are so you dont seem like a wallflower. Just be friendly.

WINGS
-Wings are good,Scoundrel put it pretty concise though...A GREAT WING you connect with is hard to find and come by. A wing is a good asset and certainly helps you not feel out of place but if two AFCs that are completely new go to wing together they will find that they might have trouble talking to sets, or mess sets up while there in the club because they dont know how to properly approach.

-The optimal number to wing with is whatever your comfortable sarging with, too many guys can certainly overrun not only sets but clubs and bars.

-I personally think that 2 to 3 is an optimal set for myself anymore than 3 or 4 can get out of hand. If you do go with more than 2 then you need to have a good time there and not look like your gaming because sometimes those guys stick out like sore thumbs.

CONCLUSION
-My opinion though is that sarging alone helps you learn alot about the game through trial and error, sarging with a group when you have a tiny bit of expierence is a better lesson because you will notice what your doing wrong right off the bat. Sarging with a good PUA can be great to learn from just by watching and winging.

-I have been going out and arging alone for the past few weeks and its good stuff, because its cheaper, you dont have to worry about a wing, you dont have to worry about anything, and you make yourself talk to people.

[Scoundrel]

I have had a couple of really great wings in the past. I guess I've been spoiled. I haven't met anyone on a long time that I felt that kind of connection with. I usually go out alone or with friends that don't know anything about the community.

I have also been out with guys that really lowered my value. I used to try to help them. But, some of them had been into this longer than I have and wouldn't take my advice. So, I just don't go out with them anymore.

I'm not oppoesd to finding another wing man. But, I'm very picky about who it will be.

[the_devil]

Awesome Responses! Thanks for all the input.