a communtiy observation

[RockStar]

Sociopath: Unconcerned about the adverse consequences for others of one's actions.

Unfortunately it has come to my attention that the community seems to attract these people and I fear that we my lose sight of the 'men's movement' which is really about self improvement to these people.

See the community to me is not about tricking women into sleeping with you, Or having a magic bullet in your pocket. It's about self improvement. Why tell a girl you've been hang gliding when it would be just as easy to actually go hang gliding. As well as the effect it would have on you and your life experiences.

I prefer the term 'men's movement' over pick up artist because really I think that picking up girls is the last truly manly thing we have left in our very feminized society. So we should be changing the pace and structure of our lives to make them better, fuller, richer.

I spoke with the dali lama outside a speech in LA and I couldn't resist... I mean how often do you get to ask the spiritual leader of millions this question... 'what is the meaning of life your holiness?' he paused stared me dead in the eyes and said 'when you die. When you are laying on your death bed. You will not think I wish I had a bigger car. I wish I had a bigger house. You will think about your passions in life the experiences and people you hold closest to you with either regret or calm peace. If you have a great job that makes you miserable...you will suffer. If you have a bad job that makes you hungry...you will suffer. So suffer rich or suffer poor, follow your dreams for they are the only thing you will regret at the end of your life.' he bowed his head and walked off.

I stood struck by his words. I really didn't know how to process the fact that I had just received a real no bullshit answer to that question.

Meeting women is a truly wondrous life experience and it gives us a frame that makes us better people. More confident...less afraid. We have silenced the insecure people that we were to become more than we ever imagined we could be.

All I'm saying is love and respect the people you have met. So that we may all lay on our death beds with calm peace.

Live laugh love,
Rockstar

[Tribulus1000]

Ok couple of things here...
First, if you need help and someone gives you help...then be appreciative. If there's no contract then the guy is under no obligation to train you or evaluate you and give you pointers.

I remember meeting a guy a few years ago. I met him at one of Mojo's meetups, say 2006 or so. Well this guy was impressed with a few of my routines.
I told him one routine and he liked it and he used it on the phone with a girl. Then he kept calling me again and again. He bugged me all the time. I should have been charging this dude for the calls.
Later I learned that he also called and bugged other guys too.

After a while, I decided I would not answer his calls. He was just too needy and weird.

And time went on and he started being resentful and mean. This was the same guy who asked for my help and I came to his aid FOR FREE!!!!
And then he started being an asshole, criticizing and bad mouthing me. On top of all that the guy was a social retard and would not listen to the advice people gave him.

Since that time I have been reluctant to meetup with other guys or give away anything because some guys can be takers who are not respectful or appreciative.

I'm not out to make people believe that I have the answers to their problems. I don't. I'm just a regular guy working a regular job.

If you want quality training, go to someone who gets paid. Take a bootcamp with Love Systems or Venusian Arts or RSD.

[Scoundrel]

Rockstar, this is a point I have often made. We are not trying t learn mind control. We are simply trying to improve our social skills. I am working to become the kind of man who naturally attracts women. It's for this reason I seldom use "canned material." I do have a few good conversation starters I use when things start to lull or to get things rolling. However, I want women to be attracted to me and not some "mask" I've put on to go sarging.