More on Takeaways...Captain Jack On Sinn's Game Circa 2006

[Tribulus1000]

This should interest you guys on takeaways...
-Tribulus

***Copied From The Dallas Lair. September 2006****

Making Her Chase....
by Captain Jack


One thing I noticed Sinn do in NYC has really helped my game.

I had opened a mixed 5 set (2m3f) with Tall Shirt (i think) and almost immediately the two dudes and 1f (my original target) faded, leaving me with 2 girls.

I picked a new Target and did my thing. Sinn came in, asked me who my Target was and he started winging. I isolated, got the makeout and started grounding routines...

After about an hour or so I see Sinn against the bar with the Target's sister (who he had made out with by this time, too...) and I decide to try and Bounce to our hotel room. My Target tells me she has to clear with her sister or something so I head over...

CJ: "Hey, we should all go back to the hotel and hang out, and smoke the hookah..."

Sinn: "Great idea! We should do that...Except for HER, she's NOT invited!" (as he points to his Target)

She immediately starts grabbing him "Why? Why? How come I'm not invited!!??"

What I noticed Sinn doing was this:

Spike BT -> Take-away (either verbal or bl) -> She works to win him back -> he spikes again -> he takes away

Over...and over...and over...again. From my viewpoint it seemed RUTHLESS but she kept eating it up!!!

We HAD those girls in the bag BUT we botched the logistics. We had 5 people and NYC cabs only allow 4 max. The girls wouldn't split up so we f'ed up the transition and left them to take cab by themselves which gave them time to up their ASD.

Right now I've got a lot of #'s but I still FEEL like I'm doing the chasing.

Now that we're starting to get good I want you guys to go out and experiment with this...

My plan is to open with a BT spike then do a BL take-away right off the bat.

One easy way to get a BT spike is to do a cold-read. You can do this with a wing or do it to an adjacent set while you're in set.

PUA: "Y'all remind me of L.A. girls..." --> (why does that spike? no idea but I've been using it for over a year and it ALWAYS does...I did it on accident to a dancer and her friend over a year ago and they were hooked)

Then, turn back and re-engage your wing or the current set you are in.

They SHOULD be like "why? why? why?"

Don't answer until they get up in your face or touch you.

What's the follow-up? I ain't telling BECAUSE you may come up with something better...so do it and report back here.

I wanna know how it goes...

~ Captain Jack ~

P.S. Or how bout: "Are you two best friends?" when they say yes or no just give them a funny look and turn back to your wing. They should say, "why? why do you ask?" Then you've got a smooth transition to BF Test.

[Tribulus1000]

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Originally Posted by Tribulus
What's the follow-up? I ain't telling BECAUSE you may come up with something better...so do it and report back here.

I wanna know how it goes...

~ Captain Jack ~

P.S. Or how bout: "Are you two best friends?" when they say yes or no just give them a funny look and turn back to your wing. They should say, "why? why do you ask?" Then you've got a smooth transition to BF Test.

The followup was qualification or A3 phase (old system).

Do you guys see this?

OPEN
MINI COLD READ ---> BT spike. (A2)
DO TAKEAWAY (A2)
TURN AWAY AND DON'T LOOK AT HER
(SHE RE-ENGAGES.....)

QUALIFY (A3)
You then reward her with AN IOI AND MOVE INTO RAPPORT (C1)
You might then BREAK RAPPORT by doing a TAKEAWAY (A2)
WAIT FOR HER TO RE-ENGAGE
DO SOME MORE QUALIFICATION (A3)

REWARD HER WITH AN IOI AND MOVE INTO RAPPORT (C1)
BREAK RAPPORT BY DOING A TAKEAWAY (A2)
WAIT FOR HER TO RE-ENGAGE
DO SOME MORE QUALIFICATION
REWARD HER WITH AN IOI AND MOVE INTO RAPPORT (C1)

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This is based on a conversation I had with CJ a few years ago.

There was a cycling of A2-> A3-> C1 -> A2 -> A3 -> C1
Over and over.

It is also known as Bait-Hook-Reel-Release. (BHRR) but using body language, kino and takeaways (with Kino takeaways).

You can also see how a stack might emerge from this kind of thing.