Blow outs, venue changes & reverse pre-selection

[Westfall]

Dammit AG, you're going to make me want to go purposefully get blown out just so I can prove you wrong.

Yes it probably lowers a girls opinion of you if she sees you getting rejcted by another girl....

...but is it something that you can't overcome and have to chagne venues for??

Absolutely not!

I've told girls "NO girl will ever date me" and the girl responded with "That's not entirely true" with a big goofy smile.

Social proof is damn powerful but even if you have negative SP or are *HATED* by an entire group, you can still get laid...

Hell the girl watching you might be thinking those girls that back turned you are bitches, and secretly wishing that "a guy would approach me like that"

WF

[Alphagame]

Well, all I know is what I've experienced. Last Labor Day weekend, I sarged an entire bar for 4 hours in Athens after a football game and I made no progress with ANY woman in the bar the entire time. Blow out after blow out. But I kept approaching. That night, when the bar closed, I was making out with some random chick on the sidewalk who hadn't witnessed all that. Same approach. Same me.

Same thing happened on lower Greenville last Saturday night. Blow out after blow out in the bar, stayed there for four hours or so, made absolutely no progress...left the bar at closing time and BAM...I'm getting completely different responses with women on the sidewalk who hadn't witnessed the blow outs.

Listen, in my opinion, there's nothing more important than pre-selection. I mean women are drooling over me if I've got a woman with her arms around me in a bar. Getting blown out with a girl's body language is the opposite of pre-selection. It's telegraphing to the other women in the venue that you come un-pre-selected and it's a HUGE deal, imo.

So yeah, depending on how large the venue is, and whether or not every woman in the place witnessed the blow out, my new MO is gonna be to change venues after a bad blow. But first, I'm gonna try the "having sex with my sister" line and see how that works out.

[dubya]

That night, when the bar closed, I was making out with some random chick on the sidewalk who hadn't witnessed all that. Same approach. Same me.

...left the bar at closing time and BAM...I'm getting completely different responses with women on the sidewalk who hadn't witnessed the blow outs.

I think I would stay out of the bars then and just hang out on the sidewalks. That seems to be where much of your success is.

Kidding aside... I think that if it matters at all it may be just in your head. How you handle the situation will effect how the rest of the room reacts to you more than the situation itself.

If you get blown out what is the harm of trying a few of the above ideas? They might work. Your own method might work or you may find something else that works for you.

[Tribulus1000]

Take on BradP's attitude, Blow me or Blow me out.

[Alphagame]

Went out both Friday & Saturday. Never got blown out, so I still don't know how the "sex with my sister" line is gonna work out.