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Little help?

Postby Guyinthehall8 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:17 pm

So I'm an eighteen year old guy who just happened to stumble upon this world a day or two ago and immediately have become transfixed with this amazing stuff. I was wondering if there were possibly anybody willing to teach me a few things? Even the not very experienced probably have more than I do, haha. Looking forward to being like all of you before too long. Cheers.
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Re: Little help?

Postby dubya » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:56 pm

Guyinthehall8 wrote: Looking forward to being like all of you before too long. Cheers.


Hold off on that just for a moment.
I understand your fascination with what you've found and I think in the long run it will be a good thing for you but I also think that you should not get too deeply transfixed with this amazing stuff to quickly. There is something of a paradox in that the more information you know too quickly the less useful it is to you. Learn the basics; approach and open, make her qualify to you, push/pull. Once you start seeing results decide where you want to go from there.

As for being like all of us... don't.
Never try to be like anyone else. Something authentically you will be more valuable any day than a cheap imitation of anyone else.
The best way to do pick up is to be yourself with a a little awareness.

That said, welcome to the board. There are plenty of people here and we're all willing to help each other. Go out, try stuff, post what happens, listen to people's comments and suggestions, read other people's post and use what works for you. Most of all, have fun with this stuff. If you're not enjoying an interaction does it really matter if she isn't?
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Postby Guyinthehall8 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:05 pm

Alright...I think I get what you're saying. One step at a time huh? So what's a good way to begin?
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Postby dubya » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:15 pm

This is what I've accumulated from spending several months on this board and sarging with a wing.

Start at the beginning. Approach people and talk to them. Not just girls but everyone. Use situational openers. My favorite example is if you're in a bookstore just turn to someone and ask what them what their favorite book is. Talk to people everywhere you go.

Once you're comfortable with approaching try to keep the conversation going. It is okay to have routines that you can throw into a conversation but it is best if they're your own routines that reflect who you are rather then some that are borrowed from someone else.

Then start learning how to get the girl to qualify herself to you. This is important. Say you are talking to a girl who is blond, make a comment about how you really like brunettes and if she that she dyes her hair and is really a brunette she just qualified herself.

Reward good behavior. If a girl qualifies herself to you reward it somehow. Smile, touch her arm (kino) say you like something about her then get her to qualify again with something else.

Look for IOIs. Qualifying is really a form of IOI. But it is one in which she is actively trying to conform to you. Look for other indicators of interest. Is she touching you? Is she playing with her hair? Does she laugh when you say something trying to be funny?

Have some kind of second meeting planned in your head. This could be anything; Frisbee golf, bowling, pool, poker night, a party, a new Thia restaurant you want to check out... whatever you are into. Seed this activity into the conversation. Mention it early on. "My friends and I just finished playing disc golf..." Don't harp on it but seed it into the flow of the conversation. Hit it, leave it, come back to it. At some point say that the two of you should do this activity together.

Don't ask for her number. If she agrees to a second meeting say something like, "Cool we should do that how can I get in touch with you... or... how can we make that happen..."

Stay in set after you get the number. You are not JUST there to get her number. Don't make her feel like you are. Talk to her for a few more minutes. This will make her more comfortable and more likely to respond when you txt/call...

This I feel is the most important. Integrate it into your life. Going out to sarge and opening ten to twenty sets in one night is good. Thats the way I think most people go about it and it does work and will help. But you will see girls in the course of your daily life that you will want to talk to. You need to talk to girls outside of a bar. If you're in the library studying you can open a set or two while you are there. If you have to go to the store you can open a set there. Open sets everywhere you go. Even if you don't intend to get someone's number open the set.

Those are my thoughts. Thats all I can think of right now. It should be enough to get you started with. Try stuff out. Ask questions. And read a little in the forum. Also, don't believe everything you read. Some of what you will find is pretty good, some maybe not. You can read stuff by the different gurus but don't do too much of that. You'll learn more by doing then you will by reading.
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Postby Guyinthehall8 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:31 pm

Some great stuff man, thanks a lot. Can't wait to start trying some stuff and developing my own style :D
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