Club Game

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Postby Solace » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:17 pm

I remember my club days!... VIVIDLY...

it used to be me , Jaken and Spike. Jaken if you ever meet him is a white guy with the sickest dancing skills i've ever seen.

There really is no problem with starting on the dance floor.

Club scenes demand that u have ridiculously high energy levels, good BL interpretation, and moderate dancing skills.

learn to gauge how susceptible ppl are. i.e: if a girl smiles at you when you smile at her, she is receptive and will give you the time of day. You can increase this turnout by gaining social proof, dancing in an area separate from the main dance floor, or exuding high energy.

Verbal communication is difficult in the club scene due to the volume. Make your words count. Spike BT... " wow so you are the third coolest girl ive met tonight, You should try harder"... Can you spin properly? Ill give you five points if you can do it... Go to high five her, move your hand last minute" haha ya right, my cool points arent that easy"... be cocky, fun, DHV, and escalation is best done with a direct approach.

on the dance floor take your time... mask your intentions, as you will not get where you wanna go, in the time allotted in one song. i tried not to spend more than 3 songs with the same girl... their energy and attention is everywhere so keep them moving, dont stall them or bore them.
Bounce them around, dance, talk/scream.

Also make friends with the promoters, they can help you out with social proof and when ur not in set its best to be seen talking instead of prowling
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Postby Nekrus » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:39 pm

Thanks for all the tips, I've been trying to take them all into consideration and incorporate them into my routine. I've been working on my dance skills, this place plays a mix of rap/dance, rock, and country if you can believe that. I try to dance to it all but of course country and rock don't really lend themselves to being great dance music. I try to peacock a good bit but I guess I just need to step it up since I'm not getting pulled aside just for the clothes I have on, though people do comment on my clothes once I've started to talk with them. I've thought about getting some of those LED shirts that you can have scroll your name or LED shirts that just light up or whatever, maybe some LED jewelry like rings or dog tags or whatever. Any ideas on this? I've done a lot to peacock but it seems in the club with low light situations it doesn't help much.

This last time I went with another guy friend and a female friend who danced with me and pulled two other females, both times telling them that I said they danced great. The first one sort of smiled and danced around me while my friend disappeared but this girl was dancing off the chain and I just felt like an idiot dancing next to her. I didn't really close in on her but stayed in her area doing my own thing for about 5 min but then bolted to find my friends after this girl seemed to not even notice me. My female friend was like 'what are you doing get out there and dance with her' but it seemed rather unapproachable to me, somebody please critique me on this one and maybe give me some good tips on what to look for in a girl who will dance with you and one who won't and also maybe how to dance with them, what steps to take, etc. I don't just want to run up on some girl and grab them to try to get them to dance.

In fact later on I did dance up on some girl and she turned around and said, 'What the fuck are you doing' to which I said 'Umm, you backed up on me..' after which she disappeared back into the crowd. After that later on my female friend did the same thing with another girl, telling them I said she was a great dancer, and so I started to sort of dance with this girl and she would smile at me and do her own thing but just not move in with me. I left the floor and came back a few times but I noticed that she seemed to be there with some other guy that she was interested in as she kept on going back to the floor to dance and then would go to him to try to pull him to the floor, rinse and repeat so I just left that one alone, though I did try like 4-5 times to get her to dance with me. Again I just felt like an idiot. I did get a picture with her though.

Ok so any ideas what I'm still doing wrong? I've tried to start conversations with girls around the bar areas of the club but it's still pretty loud in those areas and hard to talk and I guess as I've read before a lot of girls have their 'bitch shield' up and blow you off no matter what. I'm still shy and whatnot but I've been plowing through that a lot, but still it seems I'm missing something since these almost never go any where. Also, I've heard that one good thing to do is just dance on the floor, even by yourself, and act as though nobody is watching any way. I'm not sure this works since I've seen lots of guys do this and all that ends up happening is they just sit there, dancing, alone, and people just clear out of there way and don't pay any attention to them at all. Though I did have one friend who dances awesome just showing us some moves when an Ultra Hot HB9 or so girl came out of nowhere and grabbed him and took him to the floor to dance with her. That's what made me think that maybe learning how to dance great would be worth it.

Any way, that's the report from this last weekend. Any thoughts, comments, suggestions, etc? Also, should I just be spending this same time in bars rather than in clubs? Or other places? Thanks for all the help.
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Postby DateDemon » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:54 am

Nekrus wrote:I've thought about getting some of those LED shirts that you can have scroll your name or LED shirts that just light up or whatever, maybe some LED jewelry like rings or dog tags or whatever. Any ideas on this? I've done a lot to peacock but it seems in the club with low light situations it doesn't help much.

I take a very relaxed approach to peacocking. I just wear a stylish shirt (not even one with designs) usually a solid white button up or a striped button up. nice shoes, good jeans (men's 7-for-all-mankind usually) or a cool tshirt. Sometime I will wear a watch or a leather bracelet, a plastic 10 cent ring I got a wal-mart (I tell the girls i have a niece thats 4 that we bought matching rings and act embarassed that I am telling them but its total bs) A necklace usually a maori (sp?) bone hook one that I got for like 5 bucks off ebay. or a brass chain with this black pendant one that cost around 20 bucks. The trick here is that I look stylish and when a girl gets close all the little details pop out and she has a lot of talk about. I don't really go for the girls grabbing me because of my clothes. Also you can take a sharpie and draw something on your hand or even do a phone number you make up just as a conversation piece.
Peacocking large to the point where girls grab you cause your outfit is not a bad idea if you want to have that rockstar persona and also if you are confident enough to back it up which it sounds like you have a little bit of a self esteem issue. Another great tip is change one of your guy friends names in your phone to a girl's name and when hes winging with you get him to text you messages like "I miss you a lot, you should come over" or whatever and then show the text to a girl nearby and say what should I do this girl just texted me! =P


The first one sort of smiled and danced around me while my friend disappeared but this girl was dancing off the chain and I just felt like an idiot dancing next to her. I didn't really close in on her but stayed in her area doing my own thing for about 5 min but then bolted to find my friends after this girl seemed to not even notice me.


I think this is just a little bit of a self esteem thing. Even if you aren't the best dancer you shouldn't ever think the girl is unapproachable. In fact its better if she is because no other guys will approach her =P If you get set up with a girl and you aren't a good dancer just take the charge and grab her hand and lift it up and say do a spin for me and see if you can follow it up from there like isolate her off the dance floor or something. Bottom line is if you aren't good at dancing then maybe the dance floor isnt where you should game on girls. It is also a difficult place to pick them up period.
Yea I agree I hate the idea of just walking up to a girl grabbing her and starting to dance and just playing Russian roulette on whether you get rejected or not.
If you just have to game the dance floor then try to get some girls that are heading to the dance floor in a group. you will usually be able to tell if they are walking holding hands lol. That means they want to dance and there are no guys with them and they haven't been approached on the dance floor yet.
You have to keep in mind though not to just stand by the dance floor and become that creepy guy or one of those creepy guys that just stand there and scope out the dance floor all night.

I've tried to start conversations with girls around the bar areas of the club but it's still pretty loud in those areas and hard to talk and I guess as I've read before a lot of girls have their 'bitch shield' up and blow you off no matter what.

yea clubs and bars are usually loud. You just have to learn to project your voice. Without completely yelling. You need to maintain your posture and not lean in too much. Most dating gurus say don't lean in but its ok in rare instances. Also try to listen or atleast assume what she is saying so you don't have to say WHAT?!? every 2 seconds it will kill all momentum.
Bitch shield shouldn't really be that big of an issue. It does happen but just plow through it, don't let it get you down and move on, try a different opener, or pick a bar with less asshole chicks.

I am getting tired of typing, message me or post here if you have any questions or if i didnt answer these right. Anyone can also PM me and I will help out with any other problems.
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Postby Solace » Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:56 pm

Approaching a girl from behind is a no-no. And what looks worse than that is when you creep up to dance behind a girl. I'd cut that out. The only time i ever do that is if I know the girl. THEY ALWAYS FREAK OUT A BIT, tho.. Having to dance behind a girl displays neediness. In the first few minutes After approaching them head on, I make it a point to dance face to face, or even turn around so it looks like im backing it up on them. It gets ur smile and a little laughter but dont abuse that. AFC Adam has a video on u-tube where he talks about dance game. Thats the best way i could describe what i do... I use a little more energy than he does, but the philosophy is simple. After playing around and crazy dancing, if you want to escalate there/ show interest, make the dance seem like her sexual fantasy.

As for your peacocking, I have to agree with D.D. above me. I might occasionally wear eyeliner with lipprints on my neck, crazy rings, or a tie, however i've chosen those accessories because they are not so "in ur face". They are congruent with me. no offense but ive always looked strangely at the guys who wear sunglasses in a dark club, or wear the goggles, or the light up clothing. to me it seems Juvenile, but for some people it works. Think about the kind of girl u r trying to pull, then dress urself accordingly..
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