Interesting conversation Saturday night

[Alphagame]

Went out with one of my girlfriends Saturday night. This chick is a 7 to 7.5 now because she's overweight and 37. Anyway, I was thinking that in her 20's she was a solid 9 to 10. Saw a picture of her at her house from a few years back and sure enough, she was a solid 9.5 at 30.

We were drinking Saturday night and she mentioned that guys almost never ask her out. I found that interesting. At bars, she gets hit on a lot by guys. I asked her what they say. She said it's almost always the same stuff, "You look beautiful, you're so hot."

But I thought it was interesting that she never gets asked out on dates by guys, even when she was in her 20's and damn near a 10. Then we got to talking, and she said that her uglier friends got asked out a LOT more than she did.

I've actually theorized this in my head. All the mystery method shit talks about how the 10's are hit on all the time. The key word is HIT on, not asked out.

I'm gonna force myself to game the 9's and 10's in sober day game environments. I think a woman will have a lot more respect for a guy who can approach in day game, without any alcohol. I've been thinking that for a long time, actually.

As men, we're intimidated by beauty, and that's why her uglier friends were getting more dates than she was. At least that's what I'm thinking. She's very flirtatious, and maybe guys are intimidated by this, assume she must have a lot of guys and they fear up and never ask her out. My gut feeling is that the guys are intimidated by her beauty, not her personality.

I'd like for any of the other PUA's who are dealing with 10's to ask the same questions and post the findings in this thread. FWIW, I think she's gonna have to be in deep comfort with you before she'll open up and let you know she doesn't get asked out much.

I don't think gaming 10's is that much harder than gaming 7's, it's just a little different. I think the bitch shields in the bars are a lot stronger, but I also think that if you game them in sober, day-game environment, the bitch shields are gonna be a lot lower. I doubt many of us have much experience with day game and 10's. Probably worth a shot.

[playercool]

Here is my very simple take on this.

There are a ton of girls who are in the 7 or so range. Not all but a lot of these girl put off this vibe that they are open to being hit on and asked out. Therefore most guys are not intimidated with approaching and asking out these girls.

Now take your average 9 or higher. They hear they are amazing all the time. This makes their egos and expected levels of company even higher. On top of this there is a level of intimidation that they put off that guys see and are thus scared to act. A guy can walk up to her and tell her she is beautiful however he might lock up about asking her out.

I remember seeing some interviews with models. They would talk about how they never get asked out.