Relationships

[Bull Run]

There are forums about dealing with LTRs. I don’t understand why anyone would post asking about LTRs in a pick up forum. It doesn’t make sense to me. Will you be asking us about how to deal with your step kids next? What about your mother-in-law?

I second that notion.

[Westfall]

There are forums about dealing with LTRs. I don’t understand why anyone would post asking about LTRs in a pick up forum. It doesn’t make sense to me. Will you be asking us about how to deal with your step kids next? What about your mother-in-law?

From Wikipedia:

The seduction community is a loose-knit subculture of men who strive for better sexual and romantic success with women through self-improvement and a greater understanding of social psychology.[1] It exists largely through Internet forums and groups, as well as over a hundred local clubs, called "lairs" [2]. Supporters refer to the subculture simply as 'the community'[3] and often call themselves "pickup artists."

After all, LTR is a PUA acroynm. I know I sound like an arcomonious jackass, but if you don't understand why someone would post asking about how to get a good LTR in a pickup forum, perhaps you have issues that are beyond the scope of the community.

In any case, let's welcome new members and try to answer their questions, instead of calling them an insecure little bitch or telling them what their goal should be...

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Westfall

[Rhody]

This topic was discussed in an earlier thread, although it has been a while. In that thread, I recommended a book called The Way of the Superior Man. It's not a pickup book, but it has some great material about how to be a man, particularly in a relationship. Women sometimes don't want to admit this, but they want a man to be a man. Aside from handling shit tests, establishing rapport, and sparking attraction, a man has to be strong in his values, not apologize when he knows he's right, take control of his life (with her in it), let her solve her own problems, and so forth. That book covers a lot of those issues very well. Whether you're in a relationship or not, I recommend reading that book.

[Cru$H]

westfall, you take apart my shit, and act like your going to contradict it when in a sense you validated a lot of what i was saying. You take my words out of context. good for you, I am glad you have free time. do you wan't to spell check my work for me? The ironic part of it all is that a lot of what you said i agree with, because like i said, it agrees with what i said. but the accusations that i've read just a couple of paragraphs and the world isn't harsh.... mhmmm.

first of all i said the world is awesome but " " smarty, i didn't say anything about loyalty of individuals at all, but you decided to make it personal. every single one of these statements were somehow construed into something personal. great, i'm glad it touched a nerve. did someone give u shit the first time u asked a question.

u are coming up with generalizations of things that might happen compared to my statements after you polarize my statements. Look i realize i shouldn't have attacked a newcomer, but you took attacking to a whole new level. here are a few things.
Cockblocked usually implies with a girl you are going for, not a girl you already have.

PUAs don't ever think in the mentality that they got dumped.
I never said PUAs have one specific technique.

It obviously depends on who you are, but there are definite, mindsets and values that all PUAs have in common... like the fact they arent needy.

you are supposed to be self aborbed, we are humans, selfish humans. women adopt the same values, you were right in that way. but our race isn't as nice and cuddly as u think it is

yes. the ultimate man uses women. thats exactly what i said?..................................................................
i said pivot. these girls know we are just fucking around, because i tell them from the beggining. They are as much using me as i am using them..... but thank you WF. and when i find ones i do like yes i still consider the fact that if i find one better, i might break up with the current one, to get the new one. because i am selfish and everyone else should be too.


so your telling him he shouldn't read more about women and how they work, instead your using a PUA term he probably hasn't even heard of. but it isn't about that right WF. no one understands you or the world of pick up...blah blah blah. your so complex. Chill out. its a forum, and i respect you as a PUA, but realize you are doing exactly what you are criticizing me for.

its fine if you have stories and you like LTRs. great. nice. the mentality however shouldnt change, the goal should be the ultimate man. yes WF thats what i said. be the ultimate man. use as many girls as possible is not what i said. PEACE.


Pu is about everything right. that's what i was conveying its about everythign. its about getting everything handeled. because one thing goes with the other. its about not thinking like a afc.... in life. if u saw all my metaphors to life and the game you might be able to figure something out.
I don't use women at all

[EL CHUPACABRA]

There is just to much to read here.... I'm gonna go to a diff post! oh hell!

[Vector]

I can see it both ways. On the one hand, relationships and relationship help are really mainstream, whereas the purpose for this forum is focused around a niche that is not really mainstream. So one part of me wants to tell you to seek mainstream sources of help.

On the other hand, game-aware people have a different perspective, and I would argue are better aware of the real psychological things going on, and are in a better position to help. And relationships can be a natural consequence of pickup, so I feel that relationships are within scope.

That said, Rembrandt, your post is very vague and so it's pretty much impossible to give specific advice. If you want books, or general advice, go to the relationships section of Barnes & Noble and start reading.