TeenPUA

[insaneiac]

Hey guys, my name is Jay Max (Yes, that IS my real name its a stupid story that i might get into later) and I'm looking for some guys who can help me out. I'm currently 16 (turn 17 on the 20th!) and am starting to get into this whole pick up scene.

My main problems basically stem off of going to an all guy prep high school. I've had some experience talking to girls because I've had two sisters and some amount of gfs (not a virgin either, but it was pure luck) but its nothing substantial at all. It's hard for me to progress in sets sometimes because I get stuck running material and refuse to break out and LISTEN TO WTF THEY ARE SAYING.

Being 16 sucks for sarging because I can't get access to clubs >.< and all the girls are at home on AIM or facebook or something equally dumb. Any tips? I have some insight into the field, I'm 3 months in and am starting to pick up on sticking points and calibrating accordingly. I've read Mystery Method, The Game, Stylelife Challenge, Gambler's ebook natural game, and watched various videos. Hopefully I can get a wing though and get something serious started up.

Also, mad respect to everyone on here. I went to see Mystery and Matador on Monday and Fuckin' A man. I now have a goal in mind.

[dubya]

Being 16 sucks for sarging because I can't get access to clubs >.< and all the girls are at home on AIM or facebook or something equally dumb. Any tips?

tip... get AIM or facebook or something equally dumb.

But....

16?
Do this.
Go out and enjoy life.
Be the fun and friendly guy.
Make as many friends as you can.
Talk to everyone, everywhere you go.
Experience life first hand, not through others.
Find a reason to get out of the house every day.
Turn off the wii and the TV and go out into the world.
Live, be alive and enjoy the fuck out of every last minute of it.
Go, play and have fun. Do what kids do. Make mistakes. Be yourself.
Do all the bad things that kids your age are not supposed to do and yet do anyway.


I'm not saying don't study pick up. I wish I had found it when I was your age. But don't let it become the central focus of your life. Go out, have fun and enjoy life for what it is. Then go talk about it on AIM or facebook or some other equally dumb thing.

And now that the ABC After School special is over we return you to our regularly scheduled programing...

[insaneiac]

Thanks Dubya. I just have a follow up question for anyone.

You say find a reason to go out everyday and meet everyone (and this just might be my AA speaking) but it seems like whenever I just start talking to people for no reason except to talk it makes it awkward. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? It's just what's the logical end to the conversation with that random girl at the supermarket if its not her number?

Also, girls with moms: approachable?

[dubya]

You say find a reason to go out everyday and meet everyone (and this just might be my AA speaking) but it seems like whenever I just start talking to people for no reason except to talk it makes it awkward. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? It's just what's the logical end to the conversation with that random girl at the supermarket if its not her number?

I understand what you're saying. When you are opening sets you're thinking about how to make getting her number the end result of the conversation. Thats natural to think that way. But...

Your objective should not be to get the girl's number.

Your primary objective in opening the set is just to have a casual conversation with a stranger. Your objective in the first two minutes is simply to meet this person.

After meeting this person you have the new objective of actually deciding whether or not you want to know more about them as an individual.

I'm currently working on figuring out just exactly what it is (other than pussy) that I want in a girl. I have in my head a list of three things right now. These are things that I feel are important in a person. Playfulness, intelligence, and individuality. These are the core traits that I'm now looking for in each set that I open. I spent the last two weeks coming up with this list. (Yes I feel it is that important). You should make your own list of values that you personally desire in a relationship.

Why do I mention this?
Qualification. People on this board have been trying to teach me qualification since I started to actively open sets. Up to now I've been faking it. That is I've been making girls qualify to me using other people's material and in ways that I personally don't really care about. In a way this does work but it is incongruent with who I am.

Now... after you have met the person your objective is to see if they are someone that you are actually interested in. Now, you can fake this and make the girl qualify to any generic bullshit that randomly pops into your head or you can actually have standards and use illegitimate values to make the girls qualify themselves to you.

If you obviously have standards it will make you look attractive. Girls will even try to make themselves fit your mold. I was out with other PUAs tonight and I witnessed a clear example of this. A PUA who is very new to the community actually made our waitress qualify to him just by being honest. She completely reversed her position on a subject so that it would fit with his position.

If a girl does not qualify to you then YOU DO NOT WANT HER NUMBER. It would be a waist of both your time and hers IMO to even try to get it. If she doesn't qualify go talk to someone else.

If she does qualify herself to you then (and only then) do you have a third objective. At that point you want to try to set up a Day-2 if it is at all possible right then. If you have plans to meet for a day-2 then it's necessary for her to give you her number. It is probably best if the day-2 in some way reflects your interest in her. For example if you like girls who are into sports bowling may be a good day-2. This is something you can seed into the conversation earlier while you are still deciding if you want to know her better. If you don't have time or for whatever reason are not able to plan the day-2 right then, go ahead and get her number. It will seem natural because she'll have a good idea of why you want to hang out with her, (other then her pussy).

Also, girls with moms: approachable?

Yes, of course. I've seen it done. I may have even done it myself.

If the mom is cute... call me we'll double date... lol.

If you approach with a genuine attitude and actually care about the interaction and make the girl qualify to your standards, mom may actually help you out. If you act like a sleazy, creepy, low life fuck who just wants to stick his meat puppet in her daughter's (or anyone else's) vag then mom is going to cock block you as best she can.

Being that you are 16 planing day-2s may have logistical problems that I don't personally have to consider in my own life. You may have to get a little creative in this area.

Also, it is important both for being a PUA and for life outside of pick up that you are actually enjoying what you are doing. .... Dude, have a life. Learn this stuff but also learn to live and be alive. Having a fulfilling and enjoyable life is attractive. It is the best DHV that you can ever have.

Anyways... good hunting.
Be sure to come back and tell us your war stories from the field.

dub.