PUA from Boston

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This forum is intended for local people who have, or will at some point meet each other in person.

Online-only places (and there are many out there) very often devolve into pissing contests between people who know equally little but have some sort of 'online rep' they are trying to establish for whatever reason.

To answer your question on where you post LR's: you don't.

By having a local group of people who know each other in real life and are maybe even friends, the hope is to avoid all that. Even real-life acquaintances who don't particularly like each other will usually be civil, which is less often the case with internet strangers.

If you are not intending to be part of our local, meet-in-person group, then your motives are automatically going to be suspect. What are you wanting to get from us, and why here? It seems to me you want to post your LR's in as many places as you can. This is not the place for that.

I think you misunderstand the purpose of this group. This is not a place for online strangers. Our attention is better spent on each other, not on the LR's of some internet nobody.

We would have been friendly to you if had been
1. in Dallas and
2. wanted to not just broadcast, but participate

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[QUOTE=Vector;34637]If you are not intending to be part of our local, meet-in-person group, then your motives are automatically going to be suspect. What are you wanting to get from us, and why here?[/QUOTE]

Great question. I don't want anything from you guys. I want to add value to your community in Dallas because I have been adding value to other communites, esp the Boston one. I believe in giving value to others first long before I get any value in return. One of my core beliefs is that if I help enough people get what they want in life, eventually I will get what I want. Paying it forward. Karma. Whatever you want to call it.

To be honest, I don't care about posting LR's here or all over online. I was curious why there wasn't a place for them like I see in on other boards. I was looking to read some of yours to get to know you guys.

It's amazing to see what types of things come out of people. I like analyzing reactions to see what lies inside of people. The insights are remarkable.

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We do have a section for members to post FR's and LR's, but to ensure the saftey of our members identity, you have to be a "lounge" member. To be a lounge member, you must attend one of our meetups and continue to remain active on the boards....we need to verify that you're not some crazy girl stalking her bf or whatever...

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[QUOTE=Serendipitous;34631]Why does the Dallas lair comes off as hostile?[/QUOTE] Because you approached wrong. One of the key rules in pick-up, approach correctly.

[QUOTE=Serendipitous]Private messages are supposed to be private. Considering I sent it private, I view your action of posting it as violating the fact that it was supposed to be private. Not that I wouldn't have stated that publicly.[/QUOTE]

So you were supposed to be privately patronizing me instead of publicly?

[QUOTE=Serendipitous]Considering I have read your rules carefully and cannot find myself in violation of any of them, I also find your attack on me highly unwarranted. I also find you to be in violation of your own terms. Rule 4 to be exact:

"Buddy" is generally a friendly term popularly used in informal interactions. I fail to see any negative connotations implied in my use of it.

"Chode", on the other hand, is not a friendly term and therefore was implied negatively. I fail to see any reason for name calling, as I have not given any reason to be treated with such hostility.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rules][U][B]we will not tolerate rudeness[/B][/U], insulting posts, personal attacks, or purposeless inflammatory posts. [/QUOTE]

The key part is underlined. "Buddy" by itself could possibly be non-patronizing, however when you combine it with the before mentioned "private" message it becomes pretty clear what your intentions were. I consider patronization rude regardless of your underlying intentions. I ask you a simple question, "What is this?" and ask you to qualify your intentions since 1)You will most likely never be in Dallas and 2) seemed, and still do, as if you are only here to peddle some wares and I receive a haughty response from you. That, Greg, is very rude and distasteful.

There is no "pecking order", you have no understanding of how this community operates. Which is, we protect our members from massive amounts and floods of advertisements from the next self-proclaimed "guru" or existing ones. If you can't understand that, then I can't help you.

[QUOTE]Furthermore, being a moderator yourself:

I have a problem with your personal attack on me and I respectfully request that you remove it.[/QUOTE]

I have reviewed your request and find it a product of your own haughty actions. I respectfully request and advise you to next time consider how you approach people, in the community and in set.

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[QUOTE=Kaisen;34635]Wow you guys are defensive as hell over what? This type of interaction with anyone is childish and just low class. If you have a problem with him being from Boston or trying to market himself. Just make a rule about those things and politely not accept their memberships.

I have heard A LOT of bad things about the Dallas Pua scene and chose not to believe it until proven to myself. I'm not a hear say kinda guy but I am suprised at some of your responses on this issue. This kinda behaviour will never make this community grow or be stronger.

Every, and i'm mean EVERY pua I have met in this community has talked shit about someone else in this community to the point it's kinda pathetic. I don't care who this guy is or what he wants but he just punked everyone of you guys into acting like a jackass. Hope a new Dallas PUA prospect can over look this childishness and still want to be a part of the group.[/QUOTE]

I concur.

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I really can't believe how harshly you guys are treating this guy... You all seem very rude and ungrateful to someone who hasn't done anything to you. I could see where if he actually did try to advertise directly on your forum that you would be inclined to defend you forum. This is your forum. I would expect nothing less, but when he posts a link to a blog? Really? What does it hurt for another (free) resource to be added to the collection? Something that works for you may not work for someone else. So that "someone else" may find this resource to be helpful. That "someone else" in Dallas. That "someone else" in your lair. If you have your game on lock, why not give someone else a shot at getting their game to that level? The advise in that blog might be exactly what someone needed to overcome an obstacle in their game. And you are trying to prevent the spreading of knowledge into Dallas. Could you imagine what would happen to a city after 10 years if they cut off all communication with all other cities? The technological advances of the world would dominate that city's achievements! Why would you do that to yourselves? I could care less if you take my advice or not, but this is extremely childlike and immature. If that works for you, then so be it. I'm a grown up and I don't need to immerse myself in petty dramas and bullshit.

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Finesse, with all due respect, I [i]do[/i] understand where you are coming from. I understand the amount of advertising that's out there and how you guys are careful about what to allow on your site. I have tried to be respectful through and through and every thing I do or say comes off negative to you guys.

What I see though, is that some of the guys here are filtering what they see me doing through a negative lens. You (collectively) are untrusting of me, in my opinion, because you are untrusting of yourselves. I could be wrong, but perception is projection.

It sucks to see a splintered community out there. The things I've learned from looking at Dallas are already very valuable lessons for me.

Did I approach wrong? Very possibly. I've never encountered a splintered community or one that was so fearful of others out there. Forgive a simple mistake.

Are some of you as equally responsible for turning things sour here?

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@ Serendipitous:

I got the exact same form PM that Finesse got...so, that's just cut and paste form letter bullshit. You came here in a whirlwind of false hope and bullshit promises. I don't doubt that you have some skill and are juggling mLTRs, I'm sure that's 100% true. However, you approached without any level of humility or respect for a forum of guys that you KNOW YOU WILL NEVER MEET IN PERSON. Your advice, has value, but not when you shove it down our throats.

I love when a guy comes into our world and tries to run some kind of sick, crazy indirect Game on us and hope that you can get away with said action...chode is right, and you're not my buddy.

@ Kaisen:

Where are you? Pick up is peformed in the real world. If you think we're all so aweful, then stop lurking on the boards and hit up your anime conventions.

@ Gamble:

Actually, I have nothing to say...you seem like a cool guy and I, as most others on here, probably respect the fact that you've decided to stand up and voice your opinion.

As for the response that the Dallas Lair has bestowed in this thread, let me be the first to say this:

AT LEAST WE DON'T SUIT PEOPLE FOR BULLSHIT THINGS AND ACT AS IF WE ARE RIGHT BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS WE ARE...

The truth is that we're all guilty of breaking the law...I mean, who here doesn't speed?

So, shut your ass and let's get back to talking about local Dallas PUAs that actually have experience dealing with Uptown snobs, swamp rat Addisonites, pretentious Downtowners, and counter-culture Lakewood/Deep Ellum ladies...

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[QUOTE=Bull Run;34646]@ Serendipitous:

I got the exact same form PM that Finesse got...so, that's just cut and paste form letter bullshit. You came here in a whirlwind of false hope and bullshit promises.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you did. And I sent it to two other guys that posted here that I felt were being hostile as well. I'm sure they'll step forward soon too. Perhaps if it were possible to send more than one PM a day here I would have tried to respond to everyone differently...

As far as trying to add value to the group goes, I tried to make a post about women's hair with pictures but the board only wants me to post 10 pictures at a time. I'm working on breaking it up into smaller posts so I can fit it on here.

I love how you guys break your own rules and then expect every one else to follow them. Quality leadership.

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I know some of the local guys are in awe over what some of the guys have posted here. I just want to post as well to possibly clear up some of your misconceptions.

This guy who started the thread from Boston is nothing less than a Marketer. He came to this thread for one reason and one reason alone. It isn't to help us out or give us information. He cares nothing for anyone in the Dallas Lair. All he cares about is himself.

He came here in the hopes of people visiting his site, and google to visit his site. What he has done is link dropped which in googles eyes is a vote for his website. It is called a backlink and is very common in today's SEO tactics.

IMO this entire thread should be deleted and we can move on. It sucks that some of the people here are viewing the serious members of this forum in a negative way. The OP of this thread is nothing but a sham.

Also reread what Vector posted as what he says is dead on.

Ban, delete, move on.