introduction and sarging/wing request (weekly?)

Tell us how you found the community, preferred pick-up methods, location, etc.

Postby Guest » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:44 pm

[QUOTE=Bull Run;33752]No problem man.

Just a few words to the wise coming from someone that's been doing this a long time:

1) PU is just like everything else in life, you get out of it what you put in. Generally speaking, the difference between success and failure or varying levels of ability in PU is YOU. You are solely to blame AND you are solely to congratulate.
2) Don't be afraid to ask questions. You are amongst friends here, and trust me, someone has been in the exact situation or had the same thought process that sparked said question. You've got a great resource here so don't be afraid to use it.
3) Criticism is constructive. Sometimes we might come off as harsh, but it is no one's intention to crush anyone unless, and here is where point 4 comes into play...
4) As you develop your skills, I would advise that you try to remain as humble as possible. Arrogant, experienced PUA's are some of the shittiest people I've ever met. Arrogant noobs are the bottom of the barrel. Generally, arrogance is nothing more than that person's way of trying to appear more confident than they truly are. There is an inverse relationship between someone's arrogance and their internal confidence. The funny thing about arrogance is that women can spot it immediately (and so can we, which is while you'll see some noobs get flamed hardcore if they approach us without any level of humility). PU will become a source of pride for you in your life, I promise. But, just because you know how to seduce a woman doesn't mean that you are somehow better than any one else. The only difference between them and us is generally nothing more than education and effort. If you want to attract high-quality women, then you need to develop a quiet confidence with a sense of humility.

Having said all of that, we're all here to help and grow together. This truly is a brotherhood. But, like most relationships, it takes work for it to blossom.

Glad to have you here bro.[/QUOTE]

On the few points you brought up...WORD. I'll always remember how I started out provided I have the success you guys have. They say that success breeds arrogance but I'm hoping hard-earned competence will bring about internal respect and gratification. I am quite ready to get as much constructive feedback from my peers and experienced artists in this game. And I hope this journey will allow me to mold myself into someone who can pick the high quality women as opposed to settling for what I know I can get. I come to this forum as a sponge, my friends. =)
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Postby Guest » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:02 pm

I'm going to second PC's post about uptown. By far the best looking girls and the girls with the most to offer. If I want to meet Women the only place I will consider is uptown. I've never felt the uptown girls are stuck-up. I've met a bunch of them who were extremely attractive, extremely successful, and extremely down to earth. I've actually had way better luck with SNL's originating from uptown rather than Addison.

Addison girls may as well not exist, I am through with Addison for good with the possible exception of Zen bar. If anyone here ever sees me at Sherlocks again you have my permission to smack me in the mouth.

Lower Greenville - This place is ghetto. I always see some sort of street fight when I go here.

Addison - Disgusting swamp rats.

Uptown - Nice.

Downtown - I won't be going downtown. These girls are all about the club scene and making a "name" for themselves in the club scene. Not to mention all the guido douchebags. I have no time for these children.

Fort Worth - I really can't say, I've only been a few times (with mostly disastrous results). It's an hour away from me so I pretty much avoid it.
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Postby Guest » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:59 pm

i can understand why people always hate on uptown. you get the pretentious girls who think theyre above everyone; that is true. having said that, downtown is the exact same way, and even some places in addison.

sure, generally speaking, addison does have girls who are more approachable and yes, you can proably pull much easier at sherlocks, but honestly the talent is just not there (thats not to say that there arent a few hotties on any given night). but i would say that pulling a 7 from uptown is much easier than pulling a 7 from addison...

honestly, from my experience, ive had the best success in uptown -- im not exactly sure why (probably my state, im much more motivated, social, fun) but i do.

some places i frequent in uptown:

black friar - cool chill place with a huge outdoor patio. lots of hot chicks

idle rich - its ok, never really liked it all that much..

lotus - club enviorment, definitely hit or miss. some days it has hot chicks, some days it doesnt. age range is huge, from low 20's to mid 30's

madison ave - club enviorment and very dark and loud inside. they also have a huge patio on the roof that has an amazing view of downtwon. lots of hot chicks

aura - very attractive women, but its VERY VERY LOUD and they are somewhat exclusive. if you dont look cool, they probably wont let you in (unless you have hot girls with you). if you sarge, i would not go there in a group of more than 3 guys...in my opinion, its very tough to sarge in this enviroment. its just really really loud and crowded.

social house - i love this place. generally has its fair share of attractive women, and i like the feel of it. its chill and is more like an upscale bar/lounge

quarter bar - very chill place, definitely laid back and more of a bar enviroment.

some other random places:

deux (at mockingbird station) - can be tough to get in and is a club enviroment, but of the times ive been there i have been sucessful. also has lots of hot girls, but i'll give it 2-3 months before the talent starts to diminish -- i saw some of this this past saturday

blackfinn, sherlocks and logans in addison are all pretty chill...
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Postby Guest » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:42 pm

I'm not to experienced at bars or clubs. But, I did have a lot of success at quarter bar in uptown. The environment was really chill. I even
opened up 8s and 9s without getting blown out. Doesn't seem as stuck up compared to other uptown areas
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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:35 am

Just adding another voice to the Uptown supporters :)
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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:39 am

It's all about personal preference. In my opinion, and experience, I've found the Uptown demographic to be shallow, materialistic, judgmental, and intolerant of people that don't fit their social mold.

I work with several Uptowners, they live and play in the area, and virtually all of them are the same. It is impossible to have a conversation with them without them mentioning money or some other type of status symbol. Now, I wouldn't consider any of these people to be $30K millionaires because we all make really good scratch. I mean shit, I live in the M Streets and they give me shit because I don't live in Uptown. Get over yourself, there are other places in the world other than Uptown.

I remember once I was invited to a happy hour with the four Uptowners at my office and their friends started showing up. I didn't invite any one because I was looking to expand my social circle, not show it off. Anyway, one of the guys was talking about a date he went the night before where we dropped like 3 bills on some chick and she still didn't put out. This was a mixed group, so the question arose: "how much money should a guy spend on a girl before sex becomes required?"

To my surprise, each girl had a solid answer. $400, $500, and I think the final one was $800. So, too, did the guys and almost all of their answers were like $200 to $300. Then, they asked me. And, I said $0.

The table exploded with controversy. I explained that sex shouldn't have anything to do with money. That if you hold out for a dollar amount, then you might as well just call an escort, if you're a guy, or become an escort, if you're a girl. I went on to explain that I've actually had sex with several women that I never spent a dime on before we had sex, and even had more than my fair share of women spend money on me.

The general consensus at the table was that what I was doing was trashy and disgusting, while what they were doing was dignified and classy. So, in my infinite wittiness, I said there's nothing classy about sex...well, good sex anyway. Then, I politely excused myself and understood very deeply why I hate Uptowners. I haven't hung out with any of them outside of work since.

If you're looking for straight up hotties, then Uptown is your place. But, understand that they usually come with a price tag.

Having said all of that, I do think there is a select, very small demographic of women that frequent Uptown that do not live in Uptown and are thus somewhat more down to earth and are actually decent human beings. I've had the pleasure of running into a handful of these girls and they were all attractive and cool.

As for sex, the best sex I've ever had, I had with the girls that I met in places like The Libertine, Cock and Bull, Doublewide, and, yes, Sherlocks. All the sex I've had with Uptowners has been very average, save for that chick that I met at a tat parlor off of Greenville that eventually moved to Uptown. Then again, I'm admittedly a sexual deviant and have very, very high expectations for what women are willing to do and how frequently they're willing to do it.

Yes, Addison is full of swamp rats. Yes, Greenville and Deep Ellum are trashy (in places). Yes, Lakewood is hit or miss. But, there are plenty of 7s and 8s that are substantially more attractive, more interesting, better in the sack, and more approachable than the 9s and 10s roaming around Uptown with their nose in the air.
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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:21 am

Whoa, that's a really interesting story! Unfortunately, it's believable too. I haven't had to deal with anyone so materialistic. I'll have to hit uptown more often and see what kind of things I can learn
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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:47 am

[QUOTE=Bull Run;33771]It's all about personal preference. In my opinion, and experience, I've found the Uptown demographic to be shallow, materialistic, judgmental, and intolerant of people that don't fit their social mold.

I work with several Uptowners, they live and play in the area, and virtually all of them are the same. It is impossible to have a conversation with them without them mentioning money or some other type of status symbol. Now, I wouldn't consider any of these people to be $30K millionaires because we all make really good scratch. I mean shit, I live in the M Streets and they give me shit because I don't live in Uptown. Get over yourself, there are other places in the world other than Uptown.

I remember once I was invited to a happy hour with the four Uptowners at my office and their friends started showing up. I didn't invite any one because I was looking to expand my social circle, not show it off. Anyway, one of the guys was talking about a date he went the night before where we dropped like 3 bills on some chick and she still didn't put out. This was a mixed group, so the question arose: "how much money should a guy spend on a girl before sex becomes required?"

To my surprise, each girl had a solid answer. $400, $500, and I think the final one was $800. So, too, did the guys and almost all of their answers were like $200 to $300. Then, they asked me. And, I said $0.

The table exploded with controversy. I explained that sex shouldn't have anything to do with money. That if you hold out for a dollar amount, then you might as well just call an escort, if you're a guy, or become an escort, if you're a girl. I went on to explain that I've actually had sex with several women that I never spent a dime on before we had sex, and even had more than my fair share of women spend money on me.

The general consensus at the table was that what I was doing was trashy and disgusting, while what they were doing was dignified and classy. So, in my infinite wittiness, I said there's nothing classy about sex...well, good sex anyway. Then, I politely excused myself and understood very deeply why I hate Uptowners. I haven't hung out with any of them outside of work since.

If you're looking for straight up hotties, then Uptown is your place. But, understand that they usually come with a price tag.

Having said all of that, I do think there is a select, very small demographic of women that frequent Uptown that do not live in Uptown and are thus somewhat more down to earth and are actually decent human beings. I've had the pleasure of running into a handful of these girls and they were all attractive and cool.

As for sex, the best sex I've ever had, I had with the girls that I met in places like The Libertine, Cock and Bull, Doublewide, and, yes, Sherlocks. All the sex I've had with Uptowners has been very average, save for that chick that I met at a tat parlor off of Greenville that eventually moved to Uptown. Then again, I'm admittedly a sexual deviant and have very, very high expectations for what women are willing to do and how frequently they're willing to do it.

Yes, Addison is full of swamp rats. Yes, Greenville and Deep Ellum are trashy (in places). Yes, Lakewood is hit or miss. But, there are plenty of 7s and 8s that are substantially more attractive, more interesting, better in the sack, and more approachable than the 9s and 10s roaming around Uptown with their nose in the air.[/QUOTE]

Bull Run,

That was an interesting read. And I guess most of the uptown ladies fit that materialistic image of Dallas girls that people are always talking about... Forgive me for asking..but what qualities do the girls have that you are addressing as swamp rats? lol I only ask because some of you guys on here mention Addison as a good area for quality women that are down to earth and still hot.

My preferences are hotties with a down to earth/girl next door attitude. Can I have my cake and eat it, too? lol I hope so. I'm not down with spending $$$ on a girl that expects it. In the past, I've been extremely generous to girls that were down to earth and opposite of materaliastic...I seem to watch my $$ around the girls who have nice things LOL

Btw, do a lot of the guys on here ever meet up for dinner, drinks, and talk? It would be nice to meet you guys and put a face to a name. :)
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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:50 am

[QUOTE=Bull Run;33771]It's all about personal preference. In my opinion, and experience, I've found the Uptown demographic to be shallow, materialistic, judgmental, and intolerant of people that don't fit their social mold.

I work with several Uptowners, they live and play in the area, and virtually all of them are the same. It is impossible to have a conversation with them without them mentioning money or some other type of status symbol. Now, I wouldn't consider any of these people to be $30K millionaires because we all make really good scratch. I mean shit, I live in the M Streets and they give me shit because I don't live in Uptown. Get over yourself, there are other places in the world other than Uptown.

I remember once I was invited to a happy hour with the four Uptowners at my office and their friends started showing up. I didn't invite any one because I was looking to expand my social circle, not show it off. Anyway, one of the guys was talking about a date he went the night before where we dropped like 3 bills on some chick and she still didn't put out. This was a mixed group, so the question arose: "how much money should a guy spend on a girl before sex becomes required?"

To my surprise, each girl had a solid answer. $400, $500, and I think the final one was $800. So, too, did the guys and almost all of their answers were like $200 to $300. Then, they asked me. And, I said $0.

The table exploded with controversy. I explained that sex shouldn't have anything to do with money. That if you hold out for a dollar amount, then you might as well just call an escort, if you're a guy, or become an escort, if you're a girl. I went on to explain that I've actually had sex with several women that I never spent a dime on before we had sex, and even had more than my fair share of women spend money on me.

The general consensus at the table was that what I was doing was trashy and disgusting, while what they were doing was dignified and classy. So, in my infinite wittiness, I said there's nothing classy about sex...well, good sex anyway. Then, I politely excused myself and understood very deeply why I hate Uptowners. I haven't hung out with any of them outside of work since.

If you're looking for straight up hotties, then Uptown is your place. But, understand that they usually come with a price tag.

Having said all of that, I do think there is a select, very small demographic of women that frequent Uptown that do not live in Uptown and are thus somewhat more down to earth and are actually decent human beings. I've had the pleasure of running into a handful of these girls and they were all attractive and cool.

As for sex, the best sex I've ever had, I had with the girls that I met in places like The Libertine, Cock and Bull, Doublewide, and, yes, Sherlocks. All the sex I've had with Uptowners has been very average, save for that chick that I met at a tat parlor off of Greenville that eventually moved to Uptown. Then again, I'm admittedly a sexual deviant and have very, very high expectations for what women are willing to do and how frequently they're willing to do it.

Yes, Addison is full of swamp rats. Yes, Greenville and Deep Ellum are trashy (in places). Yes, Lakewood is hit or miss. But, there are plenty of 7s and 8s that are substantially more attractive, more interesting, better in the sack, and more approachable than the 9s and 10s roaming around Uptown with their nose in the air.[/QUOTE]


Btw, I live in uptown =) But I live here mainly to be close to work, what i thought was target rich areas (i'm not from texas), and just to be centrally located as possible. I enjoy nice things but I don't have that uptown attitude. I can't wait to go exploring the other treasures with you guys. haha
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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:39 pm

Bull Run,

Go out with any group of people in America and they will all think the way to get girls into bed is by spending dough. This isn't limited to Uptown Dallas. I've personally never spent a dime on any uptown girl. Besides, you will get gold-diggers anywhere you go.
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