Hi guys,
Not sure what I aim to get out of this but just signed up, so here's my intro... Can't say I'm part of the community yet, but am intrigued by it. You people seem to be definitely on to something. I'd love for it to work for me - not just to attract the opposite sex, but in other aspects of life as well. I just want to dip my toe in for now and test the waters before I am convinced I can swim with you sharks.
Let's get to the facts, shall we? I'm 40, and 5' 7" with thin limbs. Throw in a hint of social awkwardness and you got yourself a 40 year-old virgin (well not exactly, but close enough). But wait, that's not all. Alos, I am not a native english speaker, so I have to deal with an accent that will not go away, thanks to being able to speak this language halfway fluently only after the age of 25!!! Well, I guess I can already see some of you thinking "For starters, this guy needs to adopt a more positive attitude". Yes, I *am* working on that. (In fairness to myself, I am pretty healthy, fit and financially secure. Also, I've been told I don't look my age ;-) .)
I'm probably quite a bit older, and worse looking than most of you here, so my fear is that this shit wouldn't work for me. Do let me know if you've been dealt with a worse hand than mine and this community has helped you. I guess it's fair to say it's that time of the year where you 're supposed to make a new year's resolution and I'd really love to make being part of this community mine.
Happy new year to all,
frogprince
Dallas PUA
The Pickup Artist Playground
wanna be convinced....
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by Guest » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:02 am
Stand back guys, I'll take care of this...
So grandpa, what do you mean by "you people?"
I've always wanted to say that.;P
Welcome aboard Prince. Age, looks and income aren't a factor so don't worry about that. This stuff only works as well as the work you put into it so come on out to meetings (I won't be there I usually have to work), get to know the guys, keep an open mind (but don't let your brains fall out by accident) and remember you are learning and refining a skill set. Oh and so you know, I am 38 and we do have guys in their 50's doing this too.
welcome aboard.
So grandpa, what do you mean by "you people?"
I've always wanted to say that.;P
Welcome aboard Prince. Age, looks and income aren't a factor so don't worry about that. This stuff only works as well as the work you put into it so come on out to meetings (I won't be there I usually have to work), get to know the guys, keep an open mind (but don't let your brains fall out by accident) and remember you are learning and refining a skill set. Oh and so you know, I am 38 and we do have guys in their 50's doing this too.
welcome aboard.
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by Guest » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:23 am
First of, that's some damn good writing bro. Part of the quest is to realize how much talent there is in yourself that you may have undervalued or unexploited, as well as how much of the one's past life was actually fun and memorable (part of the stashing up your DHV stories, should you choose to). Welcome on board and there's much fine living ahead for everyone.
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by Guest » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:03 pm
Welcome aboard... I'm 37, overweight, and even if I weren't I will never be Brad Pitt ;) When I started out in this I was more than likely more socially awkward than you. I can't say that I'm all that great or anything or some kind of pick up machine at all... what I can say is that I only started learning about this stuff in April or May of this year... didn't find this site until July... and have really been out doing it only off and on the rest of the time and not putting in near the time most people here have...
That being said, in 2008 I've:
* Slept with more women than in any year of my life... including a 19 year old tech student ;) For that matter the scratches still haven't completely healed from the last one. I do credit this stuff for a lot of that... not so much pickup 'techniques' so much as the self improvement aspects - building up my own self confidence, working on my socialness, and eliminating behaviors that worked against me and replacing them with the behaviors of a more confident man ;)
* Gone from being someone most people would probably describe as an extremely shy, unconfident, socially awkward person who would NEVER approach women he didn't know to someone who is fairly social person who craves interaction, will go up and talk to women he doesn't know without getting crazy nervous, and is overall pretty confident... that depends on the day, sometimes it can still be pretty low and sometimes it can be through the f'in stratosphere.
* Kicked some bad habits and went in and out the other side of divorce a better person
* Gained a very good knowledge of what my weaknesses and strengths are as an individual and what I need to do to improve them... and the knowledge that things I thought I would never be able to do before can be done if I determine to put the work in to change.
PUA is kind of like a 12-step program... you get out of it what you put into it ;) I don't think anyone can guarantee you any super level of success that you may be dreaming of... everybody's progress and results are different. What I can guarantee you is that if you really work on it, particularly your inner issues such as confidence and belief in yourself and improving the parts of yourself that need it -- you will come out of it a much better (and more attractive) person and you'll thank yourself that you did it. I would caution against dabbling your feet in too much... dabblers generally fade away pretty quickly because they don't see the results they expect... it's not some magical key that you turn and the next day you're some awesome stud banging chicks left and right. It's very much a process and you have to get in there and do it to see results.
As far as your post, a few comments: Accents are sexy, when you portray the right attitude this will be a positive for you and not a negative. Chicks like exotic men :) Thin limbs - the gym can change that. You didn't say it specifically but I will cuz you're probably thinking it -- you're short :) You will probably think this is a negative and to a few women it might be but when they meet this 5'7" guy with crazy confidence they are going to want to know what you've got going for you :) It's all about how you portray yourself and what you believe. Being fit and financially secure is a GREAT starting point.
There are guys here who will help you do it -- you are not alone. Most of the guys are younger than you and maybe even better looking and you're gonna think 'well of course it's easy for them' but they've got issues too or they wouldn't be here :) There are plenty of guys as old as you and I who've had success. You've posted here -- that is a more than many people ever do - congrats. Don't be afraid to post more if you have questions and need help... most people are happy to respond to private mail as well.
Your first step begins when you come out to the meetup this Friday night, should you choose to take the red pill and decide to control your own reality. Most people don't take that step either. It's that simple. Look forward to seeing you then.
That being said, in 2008 I've:
* Slept with more women than in any year of my life... including a 19 year old tech student ;) For that matter the scratches still haven't completely healed from the last one. I do credit this stuff for a lot of that... not so much pickup 'techniques' so much as the self improvement aspects - building up my own self confidence, working on my socialness, and eliminating behaviors that worked against me and replacing them with the behaviors of a more confident man ;)
* Gone from being someone most people would probably describe as an extremely shy, unconfident, socially awkward person who would NEVER approach women he didn't know to someone who is fairly social person who craves interaction, will go up and talk to women he doesn't know without getting crazy nervous, and is overall pretty confident... that depends on the day, sometimes it can still be pretty low and sometimes it can be through the f'in stratosphere.
* Kicked some bad habits and went in and out the other side of divorce a better person
* Gained a very good knowledge of what my weaknesses and strengths are as an individual and what I need to do to improve them... and the knowledge that things I thought I would never be able to do before can be done if I determine to put the work in to change.
PUA is kind of like a 12-step program... you get out of it what you put into it ;) I don't think anyone can guarantee you any super level of success that you may be dreaming of... everybody's progress and results are different. What I can guarantee you is that if you really work on it, particularly your inner issues such as confidence and belief in yourself and improving the parts of yourself that need it -- you will come out of it a much better (and more attractive) person and you'll thank yourself that you did it. I would caution against dabbling your feet in too much... dabblers generally fade away pretty quickly because they don't see the results they expect... it's not some magical key that you turn and the next day you're some awesome stud banging chicks left and right. It's very much a process and you have to get in there and do it to see results.
As far as your post, a few comments: Accents are sexy, when you portray the right attitude this will be a positive for you and not a negative. Chicks like exotic men :) Thin limbs - the gym can change that. You didn't say it specifically but I will cuz you're probably thinking it -- you're short :) You will probably think this is a negative and to a few women it might be but when they meet this 5'7" guy with crazy confidence they are going to want to know what you've got going for you :) It's all about how you portray yourself and what you believe. Being fit and financially secure is a GREAT starting point.
There are guys here who will help you do it -- you are not alone. Most of the guys are younger than you and maybe even better looking and you're gonna think 'well of course it's easy for them' but they've got issues too or they wouldn't be here :) There are plenty of guys as old as you and I who've had success. You've posted here -- that is a more than many people ever do - congrats. Don't be afraid to post more if you have questions and need help... most people are happy to respond to private mail as well.
Your first step begins when you come out to the meetup this Friday night, should you choose to take the red pill and decide to control your own reality. Most people don't take that step either. It's that simple. Look forward to seeing you then.
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by Guest » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:43 pm
Hey man, I'm a big believer in the power of YOU. So, having said that, I can already see some self-fulfilling prophecies in your initial post. It starts with your handle: 'frogprince.' At first I thought this was a reference to being a TCU grad, but after your post I see things a little differently. You've already incorporated a handful of handicaps into your foray into the Community. Things that you can look back on and say to yourself, well I didn't do well because of this or that. It's not because of ME, it's because of my handicaps. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, way of thinking my friend. You're not even 'here' yet and you're already hedging. And, coming from a finance guy, the presence of a hedge means that you don't 100% believe that you will be successful. In order to really jump in here and duke it out in the battle of the sexes, you need to have zero doubt that you will succeed. Zero doubt.
You're here. You've made the first move. But, don't wait for the second, third, fourth, or fifth...every move from now on is yours. You own everything you do and think. Remember that. It is about you and no one else.
Erase your pre-conceptions of past failures, erase the thoughts in your head that you have 'handicaps.' And understand that for every liability, you have at least one asset...more than likely, you have more. The latter is a fact that you will learn and believe as you embark on the journey of a lifetime.
See you in the scene.
You're here. You've made the first move. But, don't wait for the second, third, fourth, or fifth...every move from now on is yours. You own everything you do and think. Remember that. It is about you and no one else.
Erase your pre-conceptions of past failures, erase the thoughts in your head that you have 'handicaps.' And understand that for every liability, you have at least one asset...more than likely, you have more. The latter is a fact that you will learn and believe as you embark on the journey of a lifetime.
See you in the scene.
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by Guest » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:42 am
Hey Froggy,
Welcome to the mix. The deeper you dig, the more you'll find. The more you put into it, the more you'll get out of it. Lots of great stuff in the forum here. Get out to one of the meetups, and check it out in person-its a blast! And since a lot of folks are talking age-I'm right around there too. I've got a lot to learn/experience and be advised on also-but hey nowhere to go but getting to be a better person. Like Taj metnioned, you've got a past with a bunch of great DHV stories, you just gotta learn how to let them flow...And learn a few useful skills in the process!
Welcome to the mix. The deeper you dig, the more you'll find. The more you put into it, the more you'll get out of it. Lots of great stuff in the forum here. Get out to one of the meetups, and check it out in person-its a blast! And since a lot of folks are talking age-I'm right around there too. I've got a lot to learn/experience and be advised on also-but hey nowhere to go but getting to be a better person. Like Taj metnioned, you've got a past with a bunch of great DHV stories, you just gotta learn how to let them flow...And learn a few useful skills in the process!
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by Guest » Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:35 am
Welcome.
Make sure you have your expectations straight for you. There is no magic pill here. There is a lot of talented socializers in the community, but nobody pulls all of the time or even close to it. No superhumans here.
It would be delusional to say that age and looks isn't a factor. Man, I wish the world were a fair place, and this may sound harsh but at 40 with your build don't expect (since we're on the topic) to walk in and pull 19 year old 10's with double-d's. It will only frustrate you and kill your motivation.
On the other hand, with good social skills you should be able to have quite a bit of success with women you have things in common with physically, mentally, and emotionally.
Luckily, the more self-confidence we gain the more we seem to be attracted to girls who are similar to us.
If modest and slow gains, lots of rejection, and re-examining your worldview don't scare you off, if you can keep motivated, you will enjoy a considerable amount of success depending on how you choose to define it.
Make sure you have your expectations straight for you. There is no magic pill here. There is a lot of talented socializers in the community, but nobody pulls all of the time or even close to it. No superhumans here.
It would be delusional to say that age and looks isn't a factor. Man, I wish the world were a fair place, and this may sound harsh but at 40 with your build don't expect (since we're on the topic) to walk in and pull 19 year old 10's with double-d's. It will only frustrate you and kill your motivation.
On the other hand, with good social skills you should be able to have quite a bit of success with women you have things in common with physically, mentally, and emotionally.
Luckily, the more self-confidence we gain the more we seem to be attracted to girls who are similar to us.
If modest and slow gains, lots of rejection, and re-examining your worldview don't scare you off, if you can keep motivated, you will enjoy a considerable amount of success depending on how you choose to define it.
- Guest
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